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Oh My Glob: The Adventure Time Fandom
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Bright colors. Big laughs. And a crown that slowly eats a man’s memories. We dive into Adventure Time with our friend Jerry and explore how a “silly” Cartoon Network show grew into a layered story about fear, friendship, and the cost of power.
We start with the essentials—who Finn the Human and Jake the Dog really are, how their found family shapes the Land of Ooo, and why season one’s chaotic quests pull new viewers in. Then we unpack the series’ deeper currents: post‑apocalyptic clues hiding in the background, the Ice King and Marceline’s devastating shared past, and the Lich’s Dungeons & Dragons‑inspired menace that stretches across dimensions.
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Host Catch‑Up And Birthdays
SPEAKER_01All right, gentlemen, we have made it to episode 13. The lucky number. Yes, lucky number 13. Nick, what have you been up to the last couple weeks?
SPEAKER_00Uh it's it's pretty much the same as always. Now these days it feels like it's just work. Um yeah, nothing really nothing really exciting to talk about. That's that's kind of sad for me to say. I guess my birthday was this past week. So I think we're both another year older and all that.
SPEAKER_02Do anything special?
SPEAKER_00No. So uh, you know, these days I just like to to hang out around the house. I did not, you know, with two young kids, we usually go out to dinner. Like that's the big thing, is like, okay, you have the birthday person gets to pick out the dinner spot, and then we go with my family and go hit that up. And I'm just like, that just doesn't sound appealing to me. Like to take the kids out. They're they're usually pretty good, but they they fall like kind of fast, and then it's not near as fun. So I got my mom to make a nice meal for me and Tori made me some delicious desserts, so it was good. Got some key lime pie and uh an apple crisp pie. So it was pretty good. Oh, two pies. Two pies. I did not request two pies. She just made me two pies, and I'm like, You're that special. I'm not gonna, you know, I'm not gonna complain about that, I guess. Yeah. More pie. I'm not a cake bird. I don't know if you guys know this or not. You guys cake people.
SPEAKER_01Did not know that. I dude, I could eat cake every day.
SPEAKER_00I'm not uh, yeah, it's not me. I like I like cookies and pie.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Okay, good to know. Good man.
SPEAKER_00What about you, man? What have you been up to?
SPEAKER_02Um, not a ton new. No. Biggest thing is uh we're gonna talk about it later tonight is the new Lorcana set came out, which that's a fandom that Nick and I have been getting into. If you don't know, that's the Disney uh trading card game. And again, super nerdy stuff, but we we're excited about that. That's kind of the biggest thing.
SPEAKER_00I want to do an episode about it eventually. So we will get the plan.
SPEAKER_01Michael? Yeah, big news, big news. We got our fireplace up and running. Hey perfect time. Yeah, we are like, dude, we're loving it. Was there something wrong with it before? Or was it Yeah? We uh this company had quoted us like eight grand to come fix it, and uh it ended up costing us like 900 bucks all in. So yeah, it was uh it was quite a saga, but yeah, it's been super cozy. Yeah, perfect time, like it's gotten cold, and so we just create a fire. So anyway.
SPEAKER_00Um that's true.
SPEAKER_01That's true. All right, well, uh, let me uh hit the intro here.
Adventure Time Overview Begins
SPEAKER_00Welcome to Fandom of Fandoms, the show where every single episode we are diving into a world that fans love the most, and we are excited this week to be diving into adventure time with our guest, Jerry. Thanks for being here today, Jerry.
SPEAKER_02And welcome to the peak behind the professional setup we've got here. Laboratory.
SPEAKER_00Exactly.
SPEAKER_01Seeing how the sausage is made.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, there's no there's no retakes on this. This is all live, obviously. And I did not just make an embarrassing mistake for the second time. So there you go.
SPEAKER_02Nice. Uh well, um, Michael, you know Jerry best. Why don't you tell us a little bit about him and introduce him?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, definitely. So we've got uh we've got our buddy Jerry here gonna talk about adventure time. So Jerry and I have known each other for five and a half years, I think. I think summer 2K20. I like like height of pandemic, I think, is when we've like really met. So yeah, it's been good to uh to be buddies. And Jerry was at my wedding, so nice. Fun fact there as well. Um, Nick, do you want to talk about the origins and overview of Adventure Time?
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. I had it pulled up on my phone, and of course it's closed now, but I got it. Um so Adventure Time is a one-of-a-kind animated series. It was created by Pendleton Ward, and it first aired in on Cartoon Network in 2010. It follows Finn the Human and his magical dog Jake as they explore the post-apocalyptic land of Ooh. Or Michael, how does it actually pronounce?
SPEAKER_04Ooh!
SPEAKER_00They meet unforgettable characters like Princess Bubblegum. Is it Marceline? Is that right? Yeah, Marceline. And the Ice King. So I will say this, I'll go a little bit deeper. Normally, I I've got this here, it's right in front of me. So it started out as a colorful kid's show, but it turns into something a lot deeper, which we were talking about before, another cartoon that we talked about that kind of gets uh a little bit deeper there, too. So it's a story about friendship, love, loss, and growing up. It's weird, heartfelt, and absolutely iconic. So I'm sure we're gonna get into that tonight.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, absolutely. And I also overview. Well, I was gonna say, and I also watched the original like pilot that's like seven minutes long that was like pitched to Cart Cartoon Network as just like a one-off, and then they liked it so much that they decided to turn it into a full show. So yeah.
First Memories And Why It Clicked
SPEAKER_01Wow, very cool. Well, I know we kind of like to like start off by going over our own backgrounds, you know, with the fandom and kind of our background knowledge. So, Ben, what's what's your background? That's about it.
SPEAKER_02I've seen maybe like one or two episodes randomly with other friends, but it's not a show that I ever really got into. Yeah, okay. Okay, fair enough. What about you, Nick?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, same. Um, especially, I mean, like I was graduating high school in 2010, so that was a little bit past the the time that I was starting to watch cartoons. I know, you know, you get into college and like I didn't watch a ton of cartoons in college. I just didn't. Outside of anime. But uh yeah, that was I had people that I lived with that were big into anime, and so I got into that for a little bit. But yeah, uh, not not a lot. I've seen, I don't know, maybe an episode here or there, but I don't know a lot about it.
SPEAKER_01So Michael. Yeah, so I've seen, I think I've seen maybe three episodes because my wife, Dana, and I were at Jerry and his wife's house watching them, but it was late at night. You fell asleep. We fell asleep after like episode three, and then the four of us were out. This is pre-kids, so I mean, we could do that kind of thing. No excuses. We could do that kind of thing. So my background is uh the very little I remember before falling asleep. So Jerry, what is your background in Adventure Time?
SPEAKER_03Um, my well, I'll say I uh the first time I watched Adventure Time, I was in sixth grade, and uh let's see, maybe that was around 2010 airing season one. Um it was uh the the earliest memory I have of it. Um my brother and best friend and I were having a sleepover Friday night, um, as middle schoolers do, and uh we just kind of flicked on the TV and um Adventure Time popped on. Sweet. And uh it was uh the episode was called Evicted, where Marceline comes and takes Finn and Jake's
Characters, World, And Early Lore
SPEAKER_03treehouse because her initials were carved in it like eons before. Uh but they didn't realize, so they were house hunting, and uh there's at the it's a funny, it's a it's a it's a funny episode. But at the end, um we think Jake dies because Marceline bit her, but then we find out so Jake is Marceline a vampire. Marceline is a is a vampire. Okay, cool, cool. Yes, Marceline the vampire queen. And uh and and um she she like seemingly sucks the blood out of Jake and casts his limp, noodly body aside. Um uh but then uh at the end we realize uh he survived because he sucked all of his guts up into his his thumb. We just lost it. Yeah, and at that moment, bench time had had my heart. So that's a very sixth grader like humor sort of thing that you're like, yeah, this show's awesome, man. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I got into it at a really young age and just like latched onto it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, so you mentioned a couple characters, Marceline the Vampire Queen, Jake, uh Finn, Finn. So uh clearly none of us know anything about the show. I mean, and you know, we always assume that our listeners and YouTube watchers also don't know anything. So who who are the characters exactly? Like, kind of give them a brief rundown of each. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03So um the story is centered around Finn and Jake, they're brothers. Um Finn was adopted into Jake's family,
How To Start Watching
SPEAKER_03um, and Jake is like the older brother. Finn is the younger, naive brother. Um and so uh it's just like this world is centered around them just going out and adventuring, like experiencing all sorts of crazy, wild adventures, um, that just really like spurs on the imagination of a child. Um and so yeah, then then they meet all these crazy characters like Marceline and the Ice King who is uh this is debatable, but um the antagonist. Okay, and yeah, we'll get into that. Oh, yeah. I want to know more about the lore there, because I I would have thought he was the antagonist. Yeah, the lore is very interesting. Um but uh yeah, it's just they just meet all these wild characters and they just like it's it's just truly amazing.
SPEAKER_02Um
Jake’s Powers And Finn’s Origins
SPEAKER_02so do you feel like uh I've I haven't barely seen any of it, is it very like standalone episodic, or do you feel like there's a pretty decent story that weaves its way through?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's it starts off as like just kind of each episode, they're kind of going on a crazy, like one-off adventure. Um, but then as the seasons build, like you get to know the characters more, um, and you get to know backstory a little bit, and then things about the world, like Pen Pen Ward, he like hints at like things about the world that you'll you'll pick up just like in various episodes, like like the background, like you mentioned post-apocalyptic, Nick. And so earlier on in season one, um, just in the background, there'd be like rubble or like dilapidated buildings, broken down cop cars, that's like the that just like blips by, and it's just they don't even acknowledge it. And it's like you know, this kid who's just having fun in this world, but then there's all this like overshadowing like destruction, like and um it's like whoa, what what happened? What's going on?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, is it something that they ever address, or is it just kind of always there? They get to it, they get to it to get it. Interesting. Yeah, yeah, that's cool.
SPEAKER_02Well, so what what makes Adventure Time such a special show to you that you keep coming back to, or you that made you latch onto it? What do you feel like is the root of that?
SPEAKER_03Um uh so I'd say uh when it came out, I was more or less about Finn's age. Okay, and um related to Finn in a lot of ways. And it's cool because as the the show progressed, um the actor Jeremy Shada, his voice like naturally changes and um they aged Finn like along with the actor.
SPEAKER_01Oh nice. So it was a kid actor with the which that makes sense, yeah. Okay,
Elevator Pitch For Skeptics
SPEAKER_01yeah.
SPEAKER_00I feel like that happens a lot in animations, honestly. Like they tend to be adult actors more often. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_03Um, but it is just really cool because the the act both the actors growing up and Finn is growing up with the actor, and and they enter interweave that into the story, which is awesome. Um, but then as as a kid about Finn's age, I just super uh I just related to Finn like in a lot of ways, um was kind of growing up with Finn, uh, you know, having crushes on girls and stuff, and you know, middle school crushes and whatnot. Um but adventuring with friends and you know, all sorts of things
Live Watch And Reactions
SPEAKER_03like that. So I I feel like you know, I clung on to that as a as a developing adolescent. Yeah. Heck yeah. That's why it makes sense.
SPEAKER_00I don't think that anybody put any of this in the in the question later, but I know the show's over now. I what's what was kind of the reason do you know why why the show ended or like what what caused it? Why didn't it keep on going? Did it lose popularity over time? Is it is it waxed and waned? Is it more popular now?
SPEAKER_03Um you know, I think I don't wanna I wanna save some of this. Okay, sorry. I didn't know it was too early. No, it's all good. That's good. Um I think they they started answering like these big questions. Um, and I feel like once they started the earlier seasons, they would tease these and allude to these like big picture things, but not address them. It was like shrouded in mystery, which is like was so alluring about. And then they and then they started answering these big questions and like kind of there's a little bit of we'll get that's part of my hot take. Um but this I think they just started answering these questions, and then they're like, oh the the questions really have been have been answered. We've tied a bow around it.
SPEAKER_00Um telling all the stories they want to tell basically.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, gotcha, gotcha. Interesting. Well, honestly, you've given a great background on the characters, obviously why you love it. Um so why don't you give us like an adventure time starter pack? So, like, so for us, just for example, like we've never seen it, like you know, where where should we start, you know, in terms of getting into the fandom, getting into the show, like what would you recommend?
SPEAKER_03I would say definitely start somewhere in season one. I mean, you can't go wrong with episode season uh episode one, season one. Okay, just right at the beginning. Slumber Party Panic. Yeah, it's classic, like um classic, yeah. Like um it's a zombie episode where there's like a bunch of chaos going on, and and Finn is like figuring
Why “Ocean Of Fear” Matters
SPEAKER_03out how to deal with them, and the the candy kingdom is under siege by these candy zombies, and it's just like chaotic and just one heck of a time. Um so yeah, I yeah those early, early episodes, it was just so much wonder and adventure um that Penn brought to Adventure Time. And and it was really showcased in in season one, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_01So how many seasons are there total? Ten.
SPEAKER_03Oh, okay. I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_02Gotcha. Ten seasons. Okay. Question for you before we get to our next, like our usual thing. So like Jake is a dog, right? Yeah, but he's like a magical dog. So like I I know he's got magical powers. We've discussed already, like him being able to move his guts into one part of his body, but like what what other powers does he have?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, um Jake. So he he can he stretches his body um almost maybe almost infinitely. I think the it was really only tested in one episode where uh him and it was like this dungeon crawl episode where Finn and Jake are exploring it, it was set up in a maze, and um so they he they didn't want to get lost in the maze. Okay. So uh Jake's feet remained planted at the entrance, and then he just stretched his body all the way through the maze. That's so funny. And then by the end, he was like as thin as a pencil. Oh wow. Okay, um he he was he was starting to feel at that point, but like he can uh I mean he's he can get he can grow to like 20, 30, 40 feet tall. Um just stretching, yeah, he stretched, but then um it's uh Finn can hop
Tone Shift And Showrunner Change
SPEAKER_03so like Finn and Jake can morph essentially, and Finn can enter the Jake suit where Jake jumps inside of or Finn jumps inside of Jake and like Jake like gets all buff and like Finn is inside. He's like a super suit. Oh man. Um but he's like controlling like Jake's limbs from the inside. Um so yeah, there he's he's so just many, many different avenues.
SPEAKER_00Jake's does Finn roll when he empowers himself, or he's just human, right?
SPEAKER_01He's just a human boy. Okay, yeah, yeah, gotcha. So you said that Finn was adopted. Are Jake's parents also dogs? Or yeah, they're also dogs. Okay, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, they're also dogs. Yeah um and uh you know they they all talk, obviously. And and Jake is magical. Um Finn is the only human. Uh Finn was uh abandoned as a baby in the forest, and um Jake's uh parents uh scooped him up. Okay. Wow. And uh yeah, yeah, raised him as their own. Um but it's it's cool because it's like Finn is the Finn the human. Finn the human, Jake the dog. It's be in this world, Finn is seemingly the only human. Okay. Oh, okay. Um all these creatures around them, you you start to pick up on, okay, this might be a result of the nuclear fallout. Sure. Oh, I okay, I'm just gonna do that. And maybe mute mutation. Yeah, I was gonna say maybe that's why Jake has these abilities. Yeah, that's funny.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, which is which is super intriguing. Yeah. Well, speaking of dogs and family, why don't we like we're gonna take a little side side uh bar here? Yeah. Uh do you have any dogs in your family that are real uh somehow related to Adventure Time?
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah, we have uh we have a big fluffy uh white Samoyed, uh like big furry snow dog. His name's Bimo. Awesome. Yeah, which we missed out. We should have c we should have named him Finn
The Lich: Build‑Up And Letdown
SPEAKER_03uh because of Finn's like iconic hat is white and fluffy. Um but yeah, his name's his name's Bemo. He's a he's an ornery little little cheeker, yeah.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, that's funny. Nice. Um, yeah, well, so that was a great starter pack. I mean, that makes I want to watch it now. I feel excited about that. You do what um so one thing we'd like to ask our guests is what would be your elevator pitch slash imp impassioned plea for someone to watch the show? And obviously you've already kind of made some points um initially, but yeah, um yeah, what what's your what's your elevator pitch for adventure time? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03All right, so you find yourself being like an adult bogged down in the in the daily minutiae grind, if that's the case, adventure time is for you because um you watch Adventure Time and just that that like inner inner child in you uh just resurfaces and you just get this like childlike glee because the world is so like beautiful and and colorful and the adventures are so wondrous and it's like man. Like you dream as a kid, like and you adventure and imagine as a kid a lot, and this this like just takes that form and physically and just represents it so well. Um so it's yeah, yeah, that's you know what?
SPEAKER_01You get you get one of these that was that was a great impassioned plea right there.
SPEAKER_02Thank you for that. Yeah. Well, we're about to go to break, and we're actually gonna watch an episode so we can experience all these things. So we'll be right back after our episode that we watch.
SPEAKER_00Thanks, Mikey. There we go. There we go. Well, we are back, still with our guest Jerry, talking about adventure time. Um, and all of us just watched an episode together. So I think we're gonna start out with that. Do a little bit of reaction to the episode itself. I don't know. Mike, you want to kick us off?
SPEAKER_01I I belly laughed multiple times.
SPEAKER_02You have laughed a lot more than I've heard you laugh in a long time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that was legitimately so funny. I just I don't know, just the animation style. It's like it's like cutesy, but it's also made for like a teenage boy, you know. I don't know. They strike a weird it's they strike a great balance of those, you know.
SPEAKER_00No, if I if I had been like just a little bit younger, I could see like for sure. Sixth grade is like the the peak audience there. Yeah, you know, fart jokes. Exactly. I mean fart jokes though. They they still like pack a punch. I'm I'm 34, I still enjoy good farther. So it's not, you know, but even still, we're all you know, a little bit adolescent
Music As The Show’s Secret Heart
SPEAKER_00at heart. Yes, farts are always funny. Yes.
SPEAKER_02Man, what did you think? Oh, dude, it was it was great. Uh yeah, just different uh like messaging than I expected, especially like you know, about conquering fear and like again, like the ocean being a big fear. That's a that's a real thing. So yeah, that's interesting. It went that route, but I mean in a fun way. Yeah, what's the name of the episode, Jerry? Ocean of fear. Ocean of fear. Yeah, it makes sense.
SPEAKER_00Ocean spheres. It makes yeah go together.
SPEAKER_01What was your reaction, Nick?
SPEAKER_00Um, yeah, no, I I definitely thought it was really funny too. Yeah. Um I so I think my big thing, part of the reason that it was tough for me to get into and like before um, you know, as it was actually airing, is I just I for me the the animation style didn't didn't hit me the same way as some some of the other stuff. I love you know, I love cartoons. Um not afraid to admit that. But that was I don't know, it was just something about like the the weirdness of it and the the facial like it's it's funny, and now I think I appreciate it more, but at the time when it was it was airing, I just didn't have an appreciation for that style of animation.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I I think for me, the couple episodes I watched, it was the randomness of it at times, you know, of like again, like the three ghosts just coming out of his stomach for no particular reason. I'm like, okay, like we're just gonna make up anything. But like again, that was like when it when it was coming out and when it was on air and we had friends who watched it, I was just kind of like, eh, like I need some reasoning, some logic. But like, you know, I'm thinking about a point now where I can let go of that a little bit and just enjoy things for the sake of enjoying things.
SPEAKER_00So I thought that was a really good. I I mean, I obviously I would be interested in watching more, but it seems like you picked a pretty good episode. That was that was very funny for sure.
SPEAKER_01Well, Jerry, why did you pick that episode for us to watch?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03This this episode really gets at like who Finn is. Um he he is trying to carve himself away um to be the essentially like the the hero of ooh. He
Show And Tell: The Sword
SPEAKER_03in terms of uh like D D lingo, he's he's his nature is lawful good. Um so he prides himself on being a hero, saving the innocent, protecting the innocent uh princesses. He protects all the princesses from Ice King, who has a weird like kind of obsession with kidnapping princesses. As one does. Uh yeah. Um but but this the ocean is like his biggest fear.
SPEAKER_00Um is that an ongoing bit? Is it an ongoing bit?
SPEAKER_03It it maybe is referenced a little bit later. Um but there's an even bigger bad that like eventually come eventually comes, and it's kind of like Finn's newer fear. Um but uh so yeah. Yeah, it it gets at the character of Finn and who he is, uh Mark Hamill. I know you guys love it. Yeah, dude, yeah. He guessed appeared. Yeah, yeah, well done. As the Fear Feaster. Um Fear Feaster is a great name. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Does he come back? Is that is that a regular occurring or no? No, you know, I think so much.
SPEAKER_03I don't think he comes back.
SPEAKER_02Gotcha. And that's so crazy for Mark Hamill to do like a one-off episode sort of thing. I'm like season one of a show, like especially, like it's not in this well-established thing, so like that's crazy, but yeah. Yes.
SPEAKER_03Um, and this this episode in particular, are you guys familiar with regular show? A little bit. Heard of it. I'm not, no. So so okay, so let me let me provide a little bit of background with Cartoon of Cartoon
Cosplay, Fiona And Cake, Spin‑Offs
SPEAKER_03Network. Yep. Um so Flapjack, Misadventures of Flapjack, and Chowder. Okay. Um these two shows emerged as like the greats that Cartoon Network had produced in a while. Um, and JD Quintel, the the writer of and creator of uh regular show, and Penn Ward, um, they were on the storyboard team of Flapjack as like really young creators. Um, and that paved the way for regular show and adventure time with which paralleled together and were the next two biggest pillars of uh Cartoon Network. Wow, okay. And um JG Quintwell actually storyboarded for this episode. Oh, so and Mark Hamill plays uh Skips in regular show, so he came along.
SPEAKER_01So he had a like a direct connection, it wasn't totally this random like one off. He had a direct connection. So cool though.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that is super cool.
SPEAKER_03Yes, yes.
SPEAKER_02Um well thanks again for yeah introducing us to it a little bit, and that yeah, yeah, that was a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_00I I would I would definitely recommend, and I'll probably at some point have to have to pick it up when I'm just like, ah, you know, I need some silliness in my life. Just like some good old-fashioned sixth grade humor for sure.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, the thing about that though is it it starts off that way, but then it gets so much deeper. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Does it still carry that undercurrent of like the humor? Is that always like a constant, would you say?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, okay, yes. That that is. Um,
Would You Rather In Ooo
SPEAKER_03I'll say if I jump to hot take, is it go for it? Oh, yeah, do it. Yeah, please. So here's my hot take with Adventure Time. Um the beginning, so so Penn, all right, a little bit of background about Pendleton Ward. He loved D D. Grew up playing DD. This was a huge inspiration. Um for yeah, for Adventure Time. Um and uh he he he took the helm um and was creative director through season five, I believe it was. And then um after that, an another writer who co-wrote with him, Adam Muto, he he took the helm. Penn stepped back because it was like the work life balance was like into him, and he just he just wanted to create rather than run logistically a show. Um and so he stepped down, there's a tone shift. Um, and it kind of to me, it kind of lost when when Penn stepped down, it kind of lost some of its like intrigue and magic and really yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01That's kind of been a common theme recently with like the original Gilmore girls. Yeah, with the original showrunners, you know, kind of losing their way in a sense, and then you know, the person coming stepping up to take their place is just it's never the same, you know.
SPEAKER_00It's tough to do. I mean, like you're when you're coming in, I think anytime when you're taking over for somebody else's creation, yeah, right. Yeah, it doesn't have the same meaning and power to you as it did to the person that first imagined it for sure. So I can understand. Um, but it's tough, you know, because you've got audiences that are left kind of wanting more, and I'm sure it's tough for these creators to you know let down that audience
Ice King And Marceline Backstory
SPEAKER_00that kind of like, well, you know, like I want there to be more for that audience, but then it ends up being, you know, I'm sure you're you can't be the only person that holds that opinion for sure. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Penn he when he was creating this world, he like introduced all these like these aspects of mystery, like like the world building, um uh alluding to there was a great nuclear fallout, you know. Um he he was, you know, Finn doesn't have parents, like where are Finn's parents? Where are the rest of the humans? Are there more humans? And he was like bringing up these, like like setting up these huge questions. Um and once he stepped down, Adamutu came along and started answering these in like, in my opinion, really dumb and flat ways. Yeah, like um Finn's dad, Martin Mertens, he's like when they introduced him, because this whole time it's like who who could Finn's dad be? Like Finn is Finn Finn is the hero of he's like Peter Pan, you know.
SPEAKER_00I was I was just thinking like Ray Skywalker, like who were Ray Skywalker?
SPEAKER_04Exactly. You don't even know.
SPEAKER_01You don't even know who it is.
SPEAKER_02In terms of character episodes seven through nine of Star Wars. Yeah. Okay. Focal the focal point of those episodes is the sequel trilogy?
SPEAKER_00Are you not a Star Wars fan? No, I've seen all of Star Wars.
SPEAKER_03Ray. Yeah. Ray? Ray.
SPEAKER_02The female. Yes, yeah. The very the very like last line is like someone asks her for her name and she says she goes, she's going by Ray Skywalker, so she's giving herself. She's giving herself okay.
SPEAKER_00No, the joke that I was making is that was kind of like the way. That her story was set up is like, oh, her parent her heritage from where she comes from. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yes. Okay, exactly. And so they so yes, there's all this intrigue about who who who is this great man that that could be Finn's dad. Um, and the audience just is like imagining who could this possibly be. They introduce him and he is like this this deadbeat, like super washed up, like lame, uh, like just just like he just like takes advantage of people and he's just a buffoon, just a complete and utter buffoon.
SPEAKER_00And uh subverting expectations. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I was gonna say, yeah, there's so many magical solutions they could have come up with this, and then he's just like, oh no, he doesn't want to be a dad or something, and like yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03He doesn't want to be dad. He like doesn't give a rip about Finn. He and he's just so lame. He's just so one-dimensionally lame. Yeah, it's uh it's like man. They they really missed an opportunity here. And maybe they shouldn't even shouldn't have even uh introduced his dad, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_01Would you say that's uh that's an opinion? Well, you just share is an opinion throughout the entire fandom, or or were there any were there any fans that did love his or love the character of his dad?
SPEAKER_03I think some people like the dichotomy between like Finn being this great, like despite having such a crappy dad, like he turns out to be this great hero, um, which is fine, but I I don't know. I just it was it was disappointing for me. Um let me let me bring up the the the true big bad in in adventure time, the lich. Um and the lich is again very DD inspired. DD inspired. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Ben, what can what can you tell us about like lore of of the lich? I mean, liches are undead beings, uh usually ultimate powerful wizards. Um think Voldemort and Harry Potter, where they can learn to store their soul in other things. So a lich in DD, you can't, I think it's called a phylactery, if I remember correctly. You can't
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SPEAKER_02kill the lich until you find the phylactery and destroy it, because otherwise they just keep coming back. So yeah, ultimately powerful wizards.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, dang, that's cool. And and he he is like this skeletal, like he's got like this horned, he's got two horns, and he's like this demonic um entity. Very dark, very dark for a kid show. You love the trick. I don't know if you guys have seen a picture of a lich. No, no, never, but it's like it's terrifying, um, easy even as an adult. And I'm curious.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'd say that's to tie it back in. Vecna and Stranger Things. Vecna in in DD lore is a lich. Who's trying to become a god, essentially? Okay. Well, that's cool.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Sorry, keep going, Joe.
SPEAKER_05That's great.
SPEAKER_02So they're they're definitely a very common DD baddie, like especially big, big end of campaign baddie, like, gotcha.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, nice.
SPEAKER_00Um the image here.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00This horrifying. That is horrifying.
SPEAKER_03Let me take a little gander there.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um gosh, that is creepy.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. So um he he is like he's he was captured in in this amber, like encased in amber, like in this tree in the candy kingdom, and he his evil has been at bay for like a long time. But then there's a c like somehow gets cracked, and he his essence escapes and he's released into the land of oo. Um and uh there's it's just so um he he becomes he becomes the the big bad. Um and it's just this beautiful battle between good and evil, like Fan the Human, and then this this uh anti-hero or you know anti main antagonist. Um but spoiler uh so like there's there's there's this huge conflict, and they spend several like a few episodes like teeing this up and like dealing and and setting the stage of this conflict, and it's it's just amazing. And then at the end of it, the resolution um the
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SPEAKER_03lich is uh is turned into this like the final battle sort of deal. He he's he gets this like galactic blood like on him, I believe it was, and he turns into this large fat baby. That is not what I thought you were gonna say. Named, and then he's named Sweep, and these other two like kind of dumb characters. Uh people love him though. Uh Mr. Pig and Tree Trunks, they're like married and they're kind of just like these dumb characters. Um dumb in the sense of tree trunks is just is kind of like um very slow immensely, and uh just gets walks into trouble, and like that's a little side thing. Finn is like directing her, like, no tree trunks, like you can't do like wander into this like super evil dark forest. Um, but she's out apple picking and um but anyways they they adopt the Lich that is now this fat wow baby, and they and that's how they bottle up like this this big bad evil that was looming over they did they they make him this dumb baby and I was like I I just I just could not believe that that that's how they they wrapped up okay how long was was the lich like a a big bad in the series?
SPEAKER_00Like did this go on?
SPEAKER_03So he's introduced early on and then you know maybe like uh I think it's like through like five seasons. Wow. His influence is like um he he possesses Princess Bubblegum, who's the main who's the leader of the Candy Kingdom, the main princess that Finn is in love with. Um and she he possesses her
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SPEAKER_03body and she's she uh in classic like exorcist possession kind of thing. Okay very dark. Yeah, very dark. But these things you can see that Lich's influence, like he's he's claw his soul is clawing to take form, and like he's he's getting his his dark tendrils in and sort of uh trying to bring about collapse um and really end the the whole world. Um and there's like this multiverse that that gets into and it's it's kind of wild. He's like trying to end every dimension. They're always trying to do that. Seriously. Um but but um bad guys. I know every every single one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so so it's very it was it was very disappointing how they how they I was gonna ask, do show creators and showrunners do do they want to just subvert expectations to like yeah, like this is the perfect example. Like there's this massive buildup, and then it just well, I mean, so question did did Ben come back to the show?
SPEAKER_03Um his he phased out slowly. Okay. So when he stepped down, he remained a writer, and then I think eventually he just completely stepped out. Gotcha.
SPEAKER_02Not to take away from your question, but yeah, that was my question. Is like if he would have come back and like if that's the end that he wanted, or yeah, sure, sure. Right. Yeah, if it was whoever took over.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and I think um I think for him, he he just he had created Adventure Time and he was proud of it, but he was you know, he didn't he didn't he didn't necessarily like he wasn't protective over it. Like he was willing to step down and be like, you create you take this and take it where you want to go. Um and and so he just yeah, he had he had other passions, he wanted to just go out and create more things. Um but so yeah, I mean maybe he still had some influence very loosely, I'm not sure. But gotcha. Yeah, gotcha, yeah. Pretty pretty sad. Yeah. The last four seasons I'd say it really took a dip and kind of mirrored some of these these other these
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SPEAKER_03things.
SPEAKER_00Well, I'll I'll switch gears a little bit here. So um, you know, there's the show itself. Is there anything content-wise outside of the show itself that you really find yourself enjoying?
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SPEAKER_00I'm fading out. Sorry, I need to face my mic or something. It's hard for me to turn and talk. My my mic arm is like throwing me off that it's non-existent, so I gotta kind of lean in a little bit. Sorry, but yeah, is there any content outside of the show that you enjoy?
SPEAKER_03Let's see. They had some um they had some spin-off episodes on Max, um where which I guess is still kind of part of the show, but um they they delved into some backstory of the like the main characters, Marceline, the vampire queen, princess, uh, or PB, um Finn and Jake. But even those Max HBO Max took the helm and did those.
SPEAKER_02It was more a money grab, like we're just gonna try to make more and get more people to watch rather than like a creative explanation. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's to me it is a money grab a little bit. Um, and they got very like weirdly Eastern religion, like reincarnation. Some of this existed in the show, but uh the Finn and Jake episode it it just got very like weirdly religious like that. Um which was kind of a turnoff to me. Yeah. Um that they went that direction. Um just felt very odd and fan service-y sort of kind of pandry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um but um anything outside of the show. I was just thinking oh, sorry. Oh, so was there a video game, I think? There were there was there was a video game. Yeah, okay. At least one. Maybe for the DS. What I never played it though.
SPEAKER_00I was just thinking of like one of the only pieces of of I don't know, like content related to the show that I had experienced. Have you seen the the clip of um what is it? It's it's Jake singing while he's making baked pancakes. Is that what you you've got the clip? That's like my only when I think about like I don't know, some sort of bacon pancakes, make a bacon pancakes, take the bacon, put it in the biggest.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's kind of line I've heard too. Yeah, I didn't realize it was from this. Is it is that from this show? Like that originated here? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Well, I think there's I think the joke was that somebody took the song and made it into like they put it, oh, this goes with the streets of New York, or what is the song of New York? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's what that was. It's it's the clip started off with just Jake singing, but it went into that. Yeah. Yes, that's super funny. That's funny.
SPEAKER_00I don't know why, like it's I I I guess it was a viral clip at some point because obviously somebody else besides me that thought about it and edited it into the uh the sound effects, but I don't know. Is with that being said, is I I want to say, is music a part of this show? Like a pretty big part of the show.
SPEAKER_03Music is a huge, huge part of the show. Um in in middle school, I remember shortly after like I I fell in love with Adventure Time, um season one, Into the Nightosphere. Uh Finn goes over to Marceline's house, Marceline the Vampire Queen. She plays she plays the bass, and her and her bass is um an axe, red axe. That's all so it doubles as an axe and a bass. Oh, sweet. Yeah, a bar to barrier. Yeah. Nice. Um, and it it kicks off with uh Finn is over there with Marceline, she's got her bass. Finn's got a mic and is like recording, and they're making music together, and he's like laying down a like a beatbox, and um, she starts singing these lyrics about her dad. Um, and she was the lyrics are about um how her dad ate her fries, um, and they were cold, but they were hers still, and that like tore her to pieces. She's like, Daddy, why did you eat my fries? Um, but the song was like beautiful. Wow, that's so funny. I just remember like sitting on the ground, like looking up at the TV, and um I love I love music. Um I love music. And this song just musically was it just grabbed me, like captivated me. Um, I need to look that up. Yeah. Yeah. The song and and and they had they they have so many bangers throughout throughout the the series. Um Rebecca Sugar, who led um the creatively led like the songwriting. Um she wrote she eventually left Adventure Time and went to uh Steven Universe. You guys know um that was her show, and she wrote the music for that too, which also has very good music. Yeah, um but the the music is is one of uh Adventure Time's strongest um attributes. Wow, okay, cool. Yeah, yeah, that's beautiful. Yeah, all right.
SPEAKER_02Well, I gotta ask about the elephant in the room, which I know you want to uh show off. What what what did you bring to show the group today?
SPEAKER_03Yes, show and tell. For our YouTube watchers. Oh, yes. Um, this here is my sword. Um it it's a one-handed sword. She's a beauty.
SPEAKER_01It it it is it's impressive. Yeah. I'll bust this. You're just listening to this right now. Jump onto YouTube and and look at this.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so this thing I ordered it sharp, but it's not sharp. So you can stab anybody with it. But it's a it's a legit uh sword um from uh the forgers are this is forgery dark sword armory in Canada. Okay. Wow swords. This is a legit sword. Yeah. Um but I got this for my 18th birthday. Uh my parents got it for me. And I love I mean, I just loved swords, maybe partly because Finn, like that, that's his weapon of choice. His his uh his main sword is called Scarlet, I guess dubbed by by the fans of Adventure Time. Uh, but then the the the writers started referring to it as Scarlet as well. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, nice. Um but uh I mean Finn, you know, that that's Finn's weapon of choice, and um does so many cool things with a sword. And so that uh that was my inspiration for wanting a sword, and now I keep it under my bed for intruders and night nice. Yep. Um but uh but yeah, yeah, she's uh she's a beauty.
SPEAKER_01So Jerry, um you have an entire cosplay of Finn, which do I almost asked you to wear.
SPEAKER_05I don't know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I might have to have you send a picture and we can include it. Yeah, yeah. Um if you're willing.
SPEAKER_03Oh no, of course. Um, yeah, I I have a sophomore year, went trick-or-treating as Finn the human, and then just kept the outfit and wore it for like 10 years after that every year. Um but me, me and some high school friends, we all loved Adventure Time equally, and we went at like one of us was Lemongrab. Don't know if you guys know who that is. Read class, try to read class. Um, and then there, you know, Finn Finn, Peppermint Butler, my brother was uh Marshall Lee the Vampire King, which is a spin-off of uh Marceline. But we all like we all dressed up as Adventure Time characters. Yeah, that's Adventure Time.
SPEAKER_00I was gonna say that's right. There is a there isn't there a gender bending like episode of the show?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so uh is it Fiona? Fiona and cake, yeah, Fiona and Cake. So yes, Fiona and Cake within within Adventure Time, they they were uh a creation of the Ice King that he created. He like he wrote this story of Fiona and Cake based off of Finn and Jake. Um it's it's just all the main characters, but their genders are reversed and their names rhyme, but they're slightly different. Yeah, yeah. Um, but now I think it's maybe it's HBO Max. They're they're writing uh Fiona and Cake. Okay, no way I think that's yeah, I think that's I think there are some episodes out which I haven't seen. But uh yeah, that that was that was very clever. Um big fan, big fan of Fiona and Cake. Okay. Yeah, that's yeah, yeah, good, very good.
SPEAKER_02Well, nice. Well, why don't we dive into uh Nick's favorite segment? Would you rather? Yeah, I love this.
SPEAKER_00Good way to kick off the group discussion. Yes. So you'll have to forgive me if these are are not good questions, but I uh you know, being honest with you, yeah. I do I I did my best to try and pick out good ones. And um yeah, so would you rather go on a quest with Finn and Jake or chill at the tree for it with BMO all day? Which I don't even know what BMO stands for.
SPEAKER_01BMO BMO BMO?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, what is BMO?
SPEAKER_03Oh um Mo Oh the whole clip didn't download. Oh, I was gonna say that's that's a really short clip. Yeah. Sorry. If uh if my memory serves me, um uh there was they they delved into that a little bit. The this backstory of B Mo within um Adventure Time, not not the post show uh productions, but um the creator, I believe, was like this old man named Mo, I'm pretty sure. And he created all these robots and named them like A Mo, B Mo, C Mo, D Mo, like, and brought them to life. And uh B Mo is just B B in the in the lineup alphabetically. Gotcha. That's funny. Yeah, he's like a little video game device, he's a little video. A game boy with arms and legs, yeah. That's cool. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Uh okay, so back to the question. Back to the question like adventure with Finn and Jake or tree for it with BMO.
SPEAKER_03Um, I would I would just have to go out on an adventure with Finn and Jake for sure. Yeah. Get some booty as loot or something. Bootious loot.
SPEAKER_00I love that. Uh a royal dinner made by Princess Bubblegum or mystery meal cooked by Jake. Would you rather?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Um Jake, I it have to be Jake. Jake is uh, he's a chef. You learn. Um, he creates like the everything burrito, which is just like this, you know, 30-pound burrito with everything in it. Uh, but then bacon pancakes, yeah, which is classic. The song is beautiful too. Uh we the the same group of friends from high school, we we had to sleep over the next morning, made bacon pancakes. That's fun. Um, but then then there's this there's this one episode where he makes the perfect sandwich and it's all these super elaborate steps, and he's like cooking up a lobster uh live, and it like screeches and and it releases its soul, and you just see a little ghost evaporating, and then he he's like lobster soul. He almost just chopped my leg off. He's like um he's like lobster soul and like wafts the goat, the the lobster soul into the sandwich as as an ingredient. Wow. That is so funny. Oh my god. So funny. So I I would have to say uh Jake would whip something up that I would for sure. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Would you rather have Ice King write a song about you or Marceline paint your portrait?
SPEAKER_03Um I if it were reversed, I would I would prefer Marceline to write a song about me. Okay, yeah, yeah. That's what I would yeah. She she writes some bangers.
SPEAKER_00Um but I I I like Ice King have like is that something that he's known for?
SPEAKER_03That he's got the he's got song powers, or is that you know he he is he does, he plays drums. Oh drums is his thing. Um and uh he he he puts out some some stuff. They they're not great. Marceline really takes the kick in terms of songwriting.
SPEAKER_00But does she and she paints too? So she I she's quite the artist from the shows, from what I like. She's definitely an artist, but does she misunderstood artist?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. Um and Marcel Marceline and Ice King. Oh, I don't know if we can do we have time to dive in. Yeah, let's go. Oh, yeah, 100%. All right, sidebar a little bit. Um so I want I want to talk about Ice King and Marceline. Um, Ice King is this like you learn early on, he's this just kind of crazy, uh like kooky, crazy, insane guy um that steals is obsessed with stealing princesses, and and the whole spiel is like Finn and Jake rescued them constantly. And so they're they're in this like this uh dance of of um kidnapture or uh kidnapping and then saving the princesses. Um but as the show progresses uh Marceline in this one episode, I remember you, Marceline and Ice King meet up to write a song. Ice King barges over to her house to write a song together. And uh you can see you can tell she's kind of like fed up and like what like why do you why are you doing this? Like, don't you know? Um and it gets to a point where he oh he brings he he has this journal um that he brings for uh music fodder uh idea fodder um yeah uh to write from inspiration uh for lyrics and um he uh he brings these over, gives them to Marceline to like for her to start making up lyrics with and uh there's still he said there's they're they're still wet from the tears of when he wrote them, but he doesn't remember what he wrote. Um but he just grabbed things like from um pre-apocalypse, grabbed like journals um that he didn't quite realize the significance of. And uh she's like reading them, and then in the middle of that stack there's this picture, a Polaroid of her as Marceline as a little child that Simon Petrikov was his name before Ice King Um that he had in this stack. Um and Marceline remembers he doesn't remember and he she she starts cooking up this song about like uh like why you know um I remember you and like mentioning things from their past and she's she's like upset that she that he doesn't remember, but he's coming around and um we learn there that it it like in the middle of that songwriting episode it blips back to pre-apocalypse and uh um i um Marceline is there in in rubble in this wasteland. Whoa, um burning like things burning in the background. Uh she's completely alone, has this like beat up, rust, crusty old uh teddy bear, ripped teddy bear, just crying and alone, and uh Ice King comes along and he's he's not completely blue yet. He's somewhat of a regular person still. And um he sees her crying, he goes to uh he like jumps through this window um of sh of a sta shattered storefront and grabs this um this pristine bear and gives it to her, and um she stops crying and then they travel to wasteland together basically, and he adopts her as his daughter, more or less. Uh but he he doesn't remember this. So the the story with the crown and the crown was at his side during this, which is later they reveal um Ice King was an archaeologist pre-apocalypse. He he bought this artifact, which was the crown, and um, and then right when he got it, the fall or the nuclear war hit. Mushroom war is what it's called in the show, and um he would put this thing on and he would uh have these like dark visions and he would take it off and it would he started losing his mind from the crown, but but the crown gave him um ice powers. Yeah. So he could fend um in this hostile land. Now he could fend and protect Marceline as a child, but every time he wore the crown, he lost a bit of himself and his sanity. That's crazy, and so he did s survive, but um he eventually uh got to a point where he he went completely insane and complet and completely uh could he could no longer remember Marceline, which was very sad to see. Wow, that is so sad.
SPEAKER_04The depth of ideas. I know, seriously, you have a thought.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. I know you think he's just like this kind of silly goofy guy who steals princesses, but he's got a really rich backstory. Yeah, totally. Wow. Um so yeah, yeah, we we can we can jump in with the questions.
SPEAKER_00I appreciate the deep dive, honestly. Well, you guys want to jump in and to to some question and answer? We got a time for a few questions, I think.
SPEAKER_02Let's get into a few here. I'm gonna start with one. I mean, what's one character that you kind of come across that you feel like deserves more screen time or you'd like to visit their history more of or something like that?
SPEAKER_03Uh I would say there's this uh there's this his name's Sir Slicer, um, and he appears very briefly in this one episode, The End Cry Radiant, I believe it was. And um it's like this this classic uh hero's journey where um Finn has to go through these yeah, trials to become a hero, but he needs armor first, and so he goes to to the blacksmith and he can only afford like a thimble for his finger. And then this guy, this guy in like full plate armor comes up and he's like you just have a little thimble on, like he's making fun of him. Yeah, um, and uh his armor is that that's a reference to the episode. Okay, but uh he he's he's he's super intriguing. Um he's like this like green kind of um almost vampiric sort of creature uh with this sick dark black armor and this black stallion that he's riding. Okay. Um yeah, he he's definitely got a sweet backstory that they never fleshed out, but yeah dang, yeah. I'm intrigued.
SPEAKER_04Yes, yeah, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_03Sir Slicer.
SPEAKER_01So I asked this question of all of our guests, but what is the local adventure time scene like in Columbus? Have you made any new friends or connections just through the fandom?
SPEAKER_03Uh oh, I'd say um the scene, the local scene in Columbus, I'd say it's pretty non-existent.
SPEAKER_00I was about to say most of the time that's the way it ends up going. Yeah, I know. But but Michael, he he keeps on going with it. I appreciate it for that.
SPEAKER_01You would be amazed what scenes are out there. That's true.
SPEAKER_03You never know. You never know. I'll say though, just generally speaking, I can't think of a specific example, but if you meet someone for the first time and you somehow can connect on Adventure Time, you guys are like like instant buddies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So definitely brings people together in that sense. Yeah, yeah. Heck yeah.
SPEAKER_00Uh what do you think? So if you could get life advice from an adventure time character, who would it be and why? Umis of the of the adventure time characters.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Who's the one the wisest?
SPEAKER_01I feel like if Ice King had his memory, right. Like he would be like Yeah. I know.
SPEAKER_02Um the best candidate or the worst candidate.
SPEAKER_03Right. Yeah. Um maybe maybe uh Finn's hero, who's Billy, Billy the hero is his name, and uh he was just like this great hero of old that Finn um drew inspiration from. Um and when Finn meets him, he's he's uh this hey the decrepit old man now, but um yeah, I'm sure Billy would have some sage advice.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's good. Okay, um if you could visit or live in one place that they visit in this the magical world of ooh, where would it be?
SPEAKER_03Um I just would have to say uh Finn Jake's treehouse. Okay. Um it's just so sweet. There's the the first floor is uh the plunder room, so it's just like the dragons, you know, um in like Tolkien, like the dragons just sit on their gold. Okay. Um they the the first floor is like devoted to all their plunder and and weapons, and it's just so sweet. And then their layout is just so cool, like so many different rooms and uh uh yeah, the tree house. Yeah, that sounds crazy.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, that is uh if if Adventure Time came out today as opposed to 15 years ago, do you think it'd be any different?
SPEAKER_03Uh I feel like um let me think about this. I feel like um creatively they would have to be more maybe limited or conscious of of what they make uh these days, um just because things are just so offensive these days. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_00Um are there particularly like insensitive scenes that you can think of from from Adventure Time that maybe like wouldn't fly as well these days, or no? Not not so much.
SPEAKER_03Well, um I don't know. I uh I forget who who one of the writers, I don't remember who said this, but um the uh I heard one of the writers talking about like what what what does it look like to like storyboard an episode like in the room? And a lot of it is just like these people just like cracking up and and and um just creating things that they find hilarious, uh that they're riffing off of with each other, and um they they they insert a lot of like subliminal like sex jokes, um you know, like go right over kids' heads, but you know, they're just in they're just watching this episode Air just cracking up. Um and so I I feel like they'd have to just temper some of that stuff these days, especially for a kid's show. Um, but yeah, kids just goes right over their heads.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, I'll uh I'll take the the last question here because we're we're about out of time. But if you could own one magical object from the land of oo, what would it be?
SPEAKER_03Uh definitely, definitely Finn's demon blood sword. Okay, it's like imbued with yeah, the blood of a demon and has uh magical um characteristics. It's just so sick. Yeah, so awesome, man. Yep.
SPEAKER_02Well, Jerry, thank you so much for coming on the guy. Passion shows through for the show, and we we love that. Absolutely. We love that's what the show is created for for sure. Yeah, that was great. Very cool.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, all right, yeah, Jerry, thank you so much. Um, so yeah, what do we uh Nick, why don't you talk about what's coming up next on the podcast?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so we're gonna go into another thing that actually we have not much background on. So we're gonna be talking to my friend James about Stargate. Um, and yeah, so I'm I'm excited to talk to him and learn. He's he's a big fan and um just have a great conversation about that and hopefully have even more fandoms that I can wanna want to jump in on and kind of experience more because I I feel that about adventure time a little bit. I I'd like to watch a little more and enjoy some some of that humor, but yeah, that's what we got coming up next.
SPEAKER_01Awesome. All right, guys. Well, that wraps up episode 13. Thank you.
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