Ancient Egyptians in Space? We Dive Into The Stargate Fandom

What if the gods of ancient myth were parasitic aliens and the galaxy was seeded with humans? We invited James to guide us through the Stargate universe—from the 1994 film’s big swing to SG‑1’s military‑meets‑mythology formula, the Pegasus jump in Atlantis, and the isolation drama of Universe. 

Fandom culture takes center stage as we unpack GateWorld’s role, creator‑fan dialogue, and the community’s patience paying off with Amazon’s newly announced continuation. We also trade favorite “monster of the week” nightmares, from sentient water to lifespan‑warping nanotech, and assemble a dream SG team across series. If you’ve been curious about Stargate but didn’t know where to start, or you’re a veteran ready to argue rankings, this one’s for you.

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SPEAKER_00 0:01

All right, gentlemen, since Michael's not here, it's my job. Welcome. Uh Nick, what have you been up to?

SPEAKER_03 0:07

Man, uh it's been it's been a whirlwind. So there's been sickness that has taken over within our house two weeks ago. And then uh my babysitter was sick all this past week. So we had 10 straight days that we had to try and figure out something with childcare. And um it was it was wild. You realize that you know, if you've got kids and there are 10 days that you can't send them to the babysitter, you kind of run through the depth chart of um watch-ups. Yes. And so we had, you know, my dad had him for a couple days, my mother-in-law had him for a couple days, I took off a couple days, uh, Tori was off for, I don't know, a day and a half, two days, something like that. Um, yeah, and you kind of you just run out after a little while. We had to find somebody from church to watch. So it was um an adventure to put it in a nice way, but it was not very fun, if I'm if I'm being completely honest. So that was understandable. It was tough. Yeah. Um, it was yeah, but other than that, that was you know, made it through. We're we're almost at Thanksgiving, so I'm just looking forward to, you know, only got to work tomorrow and then got some days off. So that'll be nice. Yeah. What about you, man? How you been?

SPEAKER_00 1:15

Um honestly the same. Uh sickness just between me and some other people that I'm close with. So just uh yeah, a lot of that just dealing with it. Uh I had to lead worship this week at church and I almost didn't have a voice on Sunday morning. So that was an interesting time. But we made it through. Um yeah. Uh that's really been about it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:33

But we would ask Michael what he's up to. He's on dad duty tonight, so we're we're definitely sad not to have him with us, but um, we are excited to have a guest talking today uh about something very special to him, Stargate. Please welcome James to the podcast. I think Michael doesn't have it.

SPEAKER_01 1:52

See, this is quick enough on it.

SPEAKER_02 1:56

It's all good. It's all good. There's always an applause in my mind. Awesome.

Intro And Episode Setup

Stargate Basics And First Impressions

SPEAKER_03 2:02

So what did you know about Stargate? Um, you know, not much. Let's uh let's jump in though. We'll jump in with the with the title music and we'll we'll kind of get into that a little bit. There it is. There's always a little pause before the intro music. Hello and welcome to Fandom of Fandoms, the show where every single episode we dive into worlds that fans and just people love the most. Uh today we're gonna be talking about Stargate with James, and we are just so excited to have him with us. And I'll go back to Ben's original question. What do I know about Stargate? The answer, not much. Um, so I talked to James beforehand to kind of get a feel for you know, where should I I start out? And I'm sure he's gonna talk about this later, but we did uh so my understanding is the movie started at all, so that was kind of where you told us to kind of go and and check that out. So I did go and check out the movie, and um yeah, I can I'll save my thoughts for later, but I mean it was it was good, like I enjoyed it. Yeah. Um and um I really I really liked James Spader a lot. Like that was he was phenomenal.

SPEAKER_00 3:03

But uh I was not expecting that when he came on screen. Yeah, yeah. And in a very interesting role. Uh I mean, I guess I've only only seen James Spader in a few things, but like, yeah, that was an interesting role that I wasn't expecting. But yeah, same for me. I uh didn't know much about it. I assumed it was kind of a I won't say a Star Trek ripoff, but in that genre of like space themed like um adventures, which I I like and I've seen plenty of Star Trek, but you know, I just had never had time for that, and so I didn't know much about it. And so watched the movie like you recommended, and I was I was pleasantly surprised. Yeah, very, very typical can't be 90s adventure, but like in the best way possible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh yeah, and like I I think the most surprising thing for me was the soundtrack. Like I was really like it was a good soundtrack. I didn't know that. But you're right, it was it was good.

Movie Origins And Soundtrack Talk

SPEAKER_03 3:52

Um, I'll jump in and I'll just give a brief overview of just everything. So anybody that's a complete noob, um, I actually remembered this time to to get a brief overview that I could read out on the podcast. So here that is for you. Stargate is a long-running sci-fi franchise that began with the 1994 film and expanded into multiple TV series, including SG1, Atlantis, and Universe. The central concept revolves around Stargate, an ancient device capable of creating wormholes and allowing teams to travel instantly to other planets. Across its shows, the excuse me, across its shows, the franchise blends military adventure, alien cultures, mythology-inspired storylines, and long form character development. So a lot of a lot of stuff in there. And uh there was there was even longer. I'm trying to, I gotta, I gotta find the sweet spot of like what's the right amount of information to give it an overview. I think that was good.

SPEAKER_02 4:49

Yeah, I mean that that pretty much covers it. Awesome.

SPEAKER_00 4:52

Yeah, nothing touched over.

SPEAKER_02 4:55

Just kidding.

SPEAKER_00 4:56

No, no, James.

SPEAKER_02 4:57

So what what got you interested in Stargate? So I have always been really interested in mythology, and I don't know if you ever something that really got it going for me was um the wonderful 1999 film starring Brendan Frazier called The Mummy. Yes, uh classic. The whole that got me ri into Egyptology and mythology and things like that. So I think that's how I latched onto the show was the their initial take of what the pyramids were, yeah, which were landing ships, uh landing pads for alien spaceships.

SPEAKER_03 5:31

So I thought that was really cool. I couldn't get that meme out of my hand, my my head the entire time. You know, the guy with the crazy hair, just oh, aliens. Yeah, that was all I was thinking when I was like, Did they make that off of this show? That's basically Daniel Jackson. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:47

But uh Tangent, did you guys see they're doing Am On Before with Brendan Fraser and Rachel Wise? Oh, really? Yes. No, I didn't get excited about that. Uh huh.

SPEAKER_02 5:55

A lot of great things are happening. I have I I think this is perfect timing for me to be on the podcast talking about this because um, as of late last week, they announced that they are revitalizing Stargate and doing a new series. Okay, here's it.

SPEAKER_00 6:09

Amazon owns them, right?

SPEAKER_02 6:10

Yes, Amazon owns them. Uh when they bought MGM, they they bought the rights Stargate. Um it's been a long time coming. It's been like 14 years since the last Stargate show was on air. Oh wow. And uh and yeah, now they're doing a continuation. Nice.

Franchise Overview And Why It Hooks

SPEAKER_00 6:26

So yeah, I saw I saw like I was when I was researching a little bit, I saw that like the re the main writer was like, it's inevitable that something will happen. So glad to hear that they actually announced it. Nice. Very excited. Awesome. So what okay, so Egyptology kind of like got you into it. What kept you like latched on?

SPEAKER_02 6:43

Um honestly, it was the it was the pacing of the show, the the drama behind it, and each episode it was like, oh no, how are they going to almost die this time? And it just like their continued take on different mythologies and different pantheons, and like there are different gods that they reference, and it's it's just their sci-fi blend with the mythology, like what what their take of those are. I I guess I feel like I'm rambling. But you know, but yeah, so it doesn't always podcast our ramblings, so long form.

SPEAKER_03 7:19

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um so it doesn't always stay with just like the the Egypt, like you know, the the those ancient Egypt mythologies, it gets into other stuff as well.

SPEAKER_02 7:27

Absolutely. So as the series goes on, so it is pretty heavy in Egyptology at the beginning, um, with the goal. They um I if you watch if you watch the movie, so yeah, you know, like it starts off with Ra. He is like the the system lord um over all of the Go O'old. Oops, and every time, it's all right. Everybody hits his thing, yes. Uh, but he is he is the system lord. So like when when they take him out in the movie, spoiler alert, sorry, it's been out since 1994, so whatever. Uh by the way, 1994 was a great year for movies. So probably that's probably why it got overshadowed. Um, but uh when they take out Raw in the movie, it's basically like taking out the top of the the system, the pyramid. No, yeah, the top of the pyramid, exactly. Um, so that's where the the rest of the Gauled, like the other system lords beneath him try to fight for power, and that's when Apophis comes to Earth, and that's when the show starts. It starts with the Stargate sitting there in the pilot episode. It's just sitting there. There's just a group of um Air Force, I I forget what they're called. Like, are they airmen? Airmen, right? Sure. We'll go with it. Yeah, sorry. Uh but the air the Air Force is overseeing the Stargate program. Um, they're just sitting there just playing cards and stuff, um guarding this giant wheel, and it hasn't been active in years. Um it opens with the activation of the Stargate. Apophis coming in and taking a couple of the people who were watching the gate. Um so Apophis knew back when Ra first came to Earth, and 5,000 years ago it knew like this was the planet that populates the entire galaxy, essentially. So each system lord takes their own group of people, becomes the god of those people and takes them off to another planet. Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 9:31

To basically be their slaves. So essentially there are humans all over the universe. Yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:36

Wasn't that the that was the basis, though, of the movie, too. Well, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:39

But I wasn't sure if like so it sounds like all these other gods or ultimately powerful beings are doing the same thing and coming and getting humans specifically.

SPEAKER_03 9:47

Because those were those were actually like I think that was what came up in the movie, right? Those were humans that were on the that's why it was okay for James Bader to romance the girl.

SPEAKER_00 9:54

Exactly. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 9:55

She's just basically a descendant of ancient Egypt. Yeah. So she is human. Yes. She is human.

unknown 10:01

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 10:02

Well, you know, there's many of those other uh sci-fi shows where the, you know, the they're human-like creatures and they look everything like a human, but they're not human.

SPEAKER_02 10:10

They're not exactly. But no, the the galaxy is populated by humans, and the human race has made it throughout all of the Milky Way and even into some other galaxies, as you'll find out in some of the other spinoffs.

SPEAKER_00 10:23

Um so like is the main mission always like just discovery on where these the other portals go, or is it like rescue for those people, or what what what's like usually the main mission for the teams to go through?

System Lords, Hosts, And SG‑1’s Start

SPEAKER_02 10:36

So the the main mission, and I'm using air quotes if you're listening in, um is to find and bring back technology for the United States to use to defend itself against uh whatever's out there. Okay. So that is their main mission. But with uh people like Daniel Jackson and uh Samantha Carter on the team, uh, they want to do more. They want to connect human beings to one another and find out more about our history. Okay. Um like Daniel Jackson has an archaeologist and a he knows like 13 languages. Um he's uh studied so much history and going to see like where there's there's an episode in the early season where um they study um oh what was it called? Uh there they get he gets captured by this uh beast um who's who lives under the sea and starts asking about like ancient Babylon and things like that because his this sea monster's wife or lover got captured and uh stuck on earth. So he uh he reveals like this uh tablet that has like ancient cuneiform on it, and Daniel Jackson has to try to decipher that and find out what he's asking for, and it's just things like that, uh where he's exploring ancient history and trying to remember all these things, and that's kind of what keeps him alive, too. Now I already forgot.

SPEAKER_03 12:11

That's not James Spader's character, is it?

SPEAKER_02 12:13

Is that the that is not James Spader's Jackson, though, right? Yeah. So Daniel Jackson is portrayed by James Spader in the movie, but not in the TV show. So same character, different actor. Same character, different actor. Okay. What was his story for coming back to Earth then, since he and his ancient Egyptian lover were so his story for coming back to Earth was basically they uh Apophis came to Earth and stole some people from uh from the base. They uh Jack O'Neill got recruited to come back after being retired, and they needed him, they needed Dr. Jackson to help. That was Kurt Russell, right? Is it the yeah Kurt Russell in the movie? Um uh in the show had to change it. Richard Dean Anderson, aka McGyver. Oh, is that really yeah, it's MacGyver, yeah. Nice. Um only in the bloopers that they mentioned, like, oh you you could MacGyver your way out of this, but I wish they would have kept that in the show. Yeah, but oh well. Anyway, uh so they reach out to um Abados to try to get Dr. Daniel Jackson to come back and help him help them solve this mystery. Like, where where did this come from? Because at the beginning of the show, they didn't know that there were countless other planets that they could go to. They thought the Stargate only went to Abydos. So they're like, okay, well, maybe this guy came from Abydos and we need to see if Dan Jackson's okay. Yeah. But that's where they discover that um on Abydos, there they had the gate address, and then they noticed there were other gate addresses, but they didn't necessarily work uh when they dialed it the first time. So with science, they explain it by um I uh some kind of drift.

SPEAKER_00 14:03

I think it's gravitational drift or as as yeah, so the the the planets are not in the exact same locations that they were before.

SPEAKER_02 14:11

Exactly. So uh that's when Sam Carter comes in and does some calculations in her head because she's that much of a genius, of course, and figures out okay, taking into account this drift, we can dial these numbers now. We can have this um program set up so that way we can automatically dial these numbers and it accounts for all this drift. So that it literally opens up the universe to them.

SPEAKER_00 14:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:38

So are the so are the characters the the ones that you mentioned, are they kind of mainstays throughout all of the different series, or do they change, like are there different teams for each of the different Stargate series?

SPEAKER_02 14:50

So for SG1, they s that's the that's the team throughout the series. Yeah. Um in the later seasons, because it went on for 10 seasons and the actors were starting to get a little bit older, there was a little bit of change. Uh I think Richard Dean Anderson left. Um so there was there was a little bit of change in the um in the main team. But for Atlantis and Universe, uh there are different teams, but there are some like crossover episodes where Tealk uh he's the uh he's the first prime of Apophis. He's a Jaffa from uh that they meet in one of the first episodes when they're trying to rescue their uh their fellow airmen. Um he like has some crossover episodes in Atlantis, and which is kind of fun because uh he gets to fight Jason Mamoa in Atlantis because he was in Atlantis. Wait, Ronin Dex.

SPEAKER_03 15:44

Yes, wait, hold on. He was in Atlantis, he was in Atlantis. He was Aquaman. He was Aquaman, he was destined for this. Yes, absolutely. But yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:53

Nice.

SPEAKER_03 15:54

So out of the this brings me to, I guess, I don't know if this is a question that was in here or not. So what who would you say is um your favorite team of people like from the from the show, like your or favorite character, I guess.

Missions, Tech Hunts, And Team Dynamics

SPEAKER_02 16:07

Um okay, so my favorite character is gonna be Teal. Just it he is uh he's so uh rigid, but also later on he he really grows into like having a sense of humor, but it's this very dry sense of humor that um it's just it's just so funny when he tries to make a joke and it's like from a different world. He's from a different world, so the jokes don't really land or things go over his head, and like he doesn't And this wasn't the case. He wasn't in the movie, so this is from the He wasn't in the movie from the TV. He's from the TV show. Okay. Um but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:48

See, I'm trying to keep track of like which ones are like crossed, which one came into the TV show, which ones didn't.

SPEAKER_00 16:53

So to be straight, there was the movie. Yes, and then SG1. Yes. And then Atlantis and Universe? Yes. And then um was there anything else that we're missing?

SPEAKER_02 17:02

So there were also a couple additional movies that kind of wrap up SG1. Okay. There is Ark of Truth and Continuum. So those are after you've watched all of all ten seasons of SG1, these are two movies that kind of like round out some of the the final uh few episodes. So um because they couldn't really they probably could have done another season, but instead of doing another season, they just did these two movies instead.

SPEAKER_04 17:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 17:33

They were more like direct to TV movies, which was unfortunate, but um they were they were still pretty good. I I still enjoyed how they wrapped it up. Better or worse than the first one. Uh than the first movie? Yeah. Oh I don't know that I I think of it as just like an extended episode. Okay. So the movie had the original movie, even though it was from like 1994, it had movie quality graphics and everything. Whereas the show and the movies at the end, yeah, they were while they were still on Showtime, they had showtime money for it. But it wasn't like movie studio production quality.

SPEAKER_00 18:18

So and I'm sure, well, I was gonna say, and I'm sure too, like by that point, uh when you watch those movies, they're assuming you know everything about Stargate in general, as opposed to the movie, the original movie, like is introducing the whole concept and the characters and everything. So there's yeah, some differences there.

SPEAKER_03 18:32

But as I was watching the movie, I was thinking about I so and maybe maybe this is a cold take, I don't know, but I was just thinking how like the special effects, and I know you were mentioning like just the campiness of it, anyways. So was it somewhat on purpose, or is it just the fact that I don't know, some movies in the in 1994 just didn't have as good of special effect? Because I I mean I don't know to me, I didn't it it didn't seem great.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

It wasn't the best, but I mean some of the practical stuff that they did I think was really good, like some of the costumes and stuff. Like I thought they were really good. But I mean, again, for the night, especially 90s, but um, yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 19:08

Where where where do you think it lands as far as like special effects in that time of in that time?

SPEAKER_02 19:14

I think it's pretty spot on because I'm thinking of some of the other movies that came out around that time, and like there was the uh the Godzilla movie that came out in '98, um, and Independence Day that came out around the same time, um, just a couple years later. Um, I wrote I mean, those were actually uh produced by the same by the same person. Right.

SPEAKER_00 19:38

So I think that was the one thing I saw that the composer of the original movie did. And I was like, oh, Independence Day, there you go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:43

So I mean, and I really enjoyed those movies. So maybe I'm biased, but you know.

SPEAKER_03 19:50

I don't know. Well, and and that's just I mean, that's the thing too, is that some of those, because that would have been like early CG. Yeah. And like, you know, there's there's some there's some questionable. Early CG as as we know. And I mean, that's we're talking 1994. I guess you got it was several years before uh I mean, you know, the big one, the Matrix was obviously one of the the game changers for for CGI. So I guess I don't know. It makes sense. Maybe I need to uh maybe my my expectations were were too high. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 20:20

Probably it probably was. I mean, I was talking it up, so you're probably like, man, this has got to be the best thing ever.

Spin‑Offs, Crossovers, And Favorite Characters

SPEAKER_03 20:26

This is gonna be like Avatar meets Avengers Endgame. Well, you you brought up a good point though, the fact that 1994 was absolutely stacked with movies. I know that they talked about I think in that was that in the it might have been in the the little um that podcast episode or that video that you sent to me, whatever it was, where they talked about just like how it finished so low even for the year. Like it wasn't I don't even think it was top five in that year that it was released, and it still did well. Like it still made hundreds of millions of dollars. It sure did. And what were some of the other movies? Well, that would have been the year of uh what was that? That was Schalter's Redemption, which is one of them. That didn't make any money though. So that was well, it was still a big movie that happened here. Um that would have been um I don't know, was that was that the year of of uh Lion King? Might have been. Yeah. Um I'd have to go look it up. But 1994 is faint. Forrest Gump was 1994, I believe. Um I can't remember what else.

SPEAKER_02 21:23

I think there wasn't there a Star Trek movie that came out that year too. Um and then there were a couple Jim Carrey movies. I think both The Mask and Dumb and Dumber came out in '94. I could be wrong.

SPEAKER_03 21:36

Nice. Now you guys have got me got me curious what are the actual 1994 movie releases? Because that is something that's why we need a producer at this point to be able to.

SPEAKER_00 21:46

All my devices are currently being used to record, so I can't look at anything else.

SPEAKER_03 21:50

Uh so yeah, oh, Pulp Fiction. Okay. Um man, there, I mean, just it was it was just a stacked, stacked year of movies for sure. Um, yeah, Star You were right, Star Trek Generations came out that year. Yeah. Um there's definitely some that are missing off of this list for sure. But anyways, yeah. It was it was just such a big year that it did not even crack it. And I think that you're right, it could have. Like, I mean, it definitely had enough to it that I think it to me at least, and maybe that's just because I was outside the fandom, it wasn't something that I was really aware of. I didn't know that there, like, I knew of the TV show and had heard of that, but not necessarily the movie and knowing that it started with that. So that was that was interesting for me to find out.

SPEAKER_02 22:35

Yeah, and I I'll admit something right now. I also didn't know about the movie in 1994. Okay. Um I was I was two.

SPEAKER_01 22:43

Yeah, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 22:44

So I I miss I missed my window to see it in theaters. Um but um I didn't really find the find the show and become a fan until COVID really was. Okay, wow. So really one of the shows that um it was recommended uh when I was going through like Hulu, like your recommended things. And it was like, okay, SG1, what's this? So I did some research about it, found out there was a movie, the the fandom online, um that like I they basically recommended like where should I start? So I started with the movie, loved the concept, and then I started watching the show, and I I was hooked after just a couple episodes. I was like, wow, this is fantastic! Like, this is everything I'm looking for. It's nice, sci-fi mythology. It's just the algorithm. The algorithm got me.

SPEAKER_03 23:36

And you know, I I think computers know as well. That's crazy. So you never watched any of it as it was as it was airing, so you you saw it all after the fact. Okay, exactly. Yeah, wow. That's I mean, that's impressive in and of itself. Like that that goes to show that some of these fandoms and they can capture some like new person into it years after there has been any kind of release about that's really awesome.

SPEAKER_00 23:57

Yeah, yeah. Well, you mentioned you started them with the movie, so like would you recommend anyone else also watch the movie to begin with? Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 24:04

Okay, yeah. I mean, the movie is a great way to introduce yours introduce somebody into the idea of what the Stargate is and how like how it interacts with the rest of the world, uh with the rest of the galaxy, I guess. And like who the goal are, and that they're these parasitic aliens that use humans as hosts and they stay alive for thousands of years because of their sarcophagus that they get into and it heals their body. So I mean it it's just really cool.

SPEAKER_00 24:38

Yeah, wasn't that part of what like they chose humans because humans heal so easily? Isn't wasn't that like one of the main points?

SPEAKER_03 24:43

Their bodies were eat. I think that was what Ra said, right? The the bodies are so easily easy to repair. So that was what it was. So they yeah. So what did does do you actually get to see what those types of aliens look like at some point? The gold? Oh yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:57

So they are basically like eels with uh sh four like sharp points coming out of their face, and they got like little fins on the side. And why does that sound kind of like predator with the I mean yeah, kind of think think of like predator, how its mouth opens up. It's just like on a smaller scale, and it's at the end of this eel. Yeah, okay, or leech, I guess, or something like that. How big are they? Uh they're I don't know, probably like a foot, foot and a half, okay-ish. So interesting. But yeah, they they burrow in and wrap around the spinal cord and then just dig into the brain. Gosh. And then they just control the yeah, they control them. Uh-huh. They control the humans. The the host is you'll find out is still alive throughout all of this, which is kind of terrifying.

SPEAKER_00 25:44

Yeah. So you're just alive for thousands of years with this other thing controlling you, and you're forced to watch it all happen, essentially. Exactly. Gosh, yeah, things is that part of like the plots in some of these episodes or something?

SPEAKER_03 25:56

Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Huh. Spoiler alert. No, I mean, that's that's honestly now he's been around for 30 years. Yeah. Yeah. So um, well, you you got into the the where to start. And this is this is kind of the fun, the fun question. So if you were um pitching somebody to get into the fandom, what would be your 30 seconds to a minute elevator pitch if you wanted to make we we've been changing it to impassioned plea to get more people into the fandom? You can make it to the camera or to us. What uh what's your elevator pitch here? All right, which camera's mine? Is that one, that one, that one? This one over here. Yeah, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_02 26:30

Do you like sci-fi? Do you like Egypt ancient Egypt? Do you like mythology? I have a show for you. It's this one. Watch it. That's all. Nice, short and sweet. I like it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it it hits all the points that you need. Um, also, if you like hour-long shows that have 20 plus episodes a season and 10 seasons, and you need something to keep you busy. Yeah, need a good binge. There you go. In case there's ever another uh, you know, another code.

Effects, 1994 Context, And Cultural Impact

SPEAKER_03 27:02

No, it stops. Just stop. Just do it just because, not because there's a global pandemic. Oh man. Well, is there, I guess, yeah, we'll keep keep going, right? Do we want to break now or come? We're about halfway. So whatever, yeah. All right. Well, let's let's call it right here. We'll take a quick break, then we'll come back and talk a little bit about fandom culture. Sweet. Sounds good. And we're back, still talking with our guest James about Stargate. We're gonna dive into a discussion about fandom culture here. So I'll start us off. Um, outside of the shows and the the movies themselves, is there any content um that you have enjoyed or maybe that people in this fandom enjoy?

SPEAKER_02 27:44

So there is content outside of just the shows themselves. Um, I don't know if people necessarily enjoyed it. I mean, there there are groups who have who have participated. Uh, there is a video game, um, a Stargate video game, um, as well as an animated series, Stargate Infinity. Um, there's a reason why we haven't talked about those that much. Uh they aren't quite as popular, okay. Uh, but there is a subset of the fandom that did enjoy the video games um and the TV show and the uh action figures. Ooh, yeah. So want to talk about what you know what you brought. So what I brought is a cheap knockoff. Well, uh I wouldn't say knockoff, it's based off of the movie, not necessarily the TV show. Okay. Um, I happen to see this at Big Fun downtown, and uh it is a an Anubis Jaffa uh guard from uh you don't we don't need Anubis until like late in the series.

SPEAKER_03 28:53

He wasn't one of the one of the guys that was just Ra and then his guards, like yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:57

It was Ra and all of his guards.

SPEAKER_03 28:58

So did the guards not have different I thought they had different heads.

SPEAKER_02 29:02

They did have different heads, yes, but they that wasn't actually mentioned, yeah. They don't actually mention like Anubis as one of uh the system lords or anything. Um, because I I believe at that time he was believed to be dead or banished, um, which find out later on, spoiler alert again. He comes back and he he's a different form of go old in a way. Uh but he does have his own guards. Can I see?

SPEAKER_03 29:30

I'm actually I'm curious about the is there a a large so was was there quite a bit of uh action figures and and toys made from Stargate? Because I know obviously at the time there were tons of uh content for sure. So was that something that was was common that you're aware of, or not so much?

SPEAKER_02 29:49

So there wasn't a ton, but on the back here it does show a few different um action figures that you could collect. You got Daniel Jackson, Colonel O'Neil, uh there's an attack pilot, Horace, uh guard, Lieutenant Kowalski, Anubis.

SPEAKER_03 30:03

I'll say that that version of Daniel Jackson looks a lot more uh ripped than James Spader. That is yes.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

He's like he looks James Spader on steroids.

SPEAKER_03 30:13

He's like James Spader Rambo, honestly.

SPEAKER_02 30:15

Yeah, and honestly, looking at the back of these, uh, the only two that are even kind of accurate. I mean, most of them you can't see their face because they have their helmets on, but um, is Daniel Jackson and Colonel O'Neill. They actually kind of look like their characters from the movie, whereas the rest don't. Uh this picture of Lieutenant Kowalski looks nothing like French Stewart. Um and this uh picture of Skara, not so much. No, okay. Uh yeah, I I just thought this was a very interesting piece of memorabilia that I just happened to come across at Big Fun for$4.99. And I was like, all right, I'm gonna get it. Why not? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:56

And I saw on the front it actually was advertising the video game. So yeah, yeah. It says, like, yeah, get the video game from Acclaim.

SPEAKER_03 31:02

So you know, that's how you that's how you get people, right? There's people who play video games like to collect action figures and play with action figures, right?

SPEAKER_00 31:10

Just nerds in general, coming out.

SPEAKER_03 31:13

For sure, absolutely. Uh um, so we got your your merch, we got the games, we got the oh I did I guess I didn't even ask. What was the premise of the uh the animated show? Do you know? I don't know. I have not watched it. That was okay. I have not been able to find it anywhere yet.

SPEAKER_02 31:30

Oh, really? Okay, yeah. Oh, so I I don't know if it's I don't know if it's somewhere deep in Amazon Prime or Lost to Time. Yeah, I I don't know who owns it or where it is, but it is one that I have not yet watched.

SPEAKER_03 31:43

Okay, well uh well let's let's move into some hot takes. I I'm always curious, this can always be a fun part of the conversation. Is there anything that um any unpopular opinions that you have about the show or the movies?

SPEAKER_02 31:59

So one unpopular hot take, I guess, is um Colonel O'Neill and uh Sam Carter probably should not have ended up together. Like they they had like a will they won't they relationship going throughout the whole thing, um, but they couldn't date each other because he was her superior officer, and it uh I've I've I've heard from other people who feel a similar way that it kind of cheapens the uh arc of Sam Carter overall, like in the end, she's still falling for this guy kind of thing. Like she could do better or somewhere else, or it like they they probably shouldn't have ended up together. There's always gotta be a love interest. Yeah, romance, but yeah. You don't you don't need that, like the show was great without it. Like it it was kind of like on the back burner through most of it. It wasn't until later seasons that it really started to to get some legs and form into this all right, so they clearly have feelings for each other kind of thing.

How To Start Stargate And Binge Paths

SPEAKER_03 33:08

What whatever happened to so is Daniel Jackson's love interest slash wife, I guess it was from the movie. Is that is it still a thing in the show? Does it ever come back?

SPEAKER_02 33:18

Or is it just uh yes, so that it does come back, and um she is one of the people that they are trying to save from Apophis.

SPEAKER_04 33:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 33:30

Because after Apophis comes to Earth and takes some of the uh some of the airmen from the from the base, he then goes back to uh Abidos after they meet after um after the Stargate team goes to Abydos to try to get Daniel Jackson and find out more about the rest of the galaxy. Um Apophis comes and takes Shah Ray and Skara. So they that's when Daniel Jackson decides to join the team and become part of SG1 and travel to try to save Shah Ray.

SPEAKER_03 34:08

Oh, okay. So they kind of use it as that like plot point, like you don't ever really see her very much, but like just kind of the driving force of okay, yeah, moving the plot along.

SPEAKER_02 34:18

Got it. Yeah. Even says each time I walk through that gate, I'm trying to I'm thinking, is this the time when I'm gonna be able to see Sharee? Each time I'm trying to save my wife. Oh okay.

unknown 34:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:30

Um, let's see, what do we get? Oh, uh so hot take any other hot takes that that come to mind before we're gonna get into the the wider discussion here in a couple minutes.

SPEAKER_02 34:39

Um, I think Jonas Quinn was a great addition to the team. Um so in one of the later seasons, Daniel Jackson leaves the show for a little while. Um fun fact that there was even people were so upset about him leaving the show. I I think there were some creative differences. Um so they kind of wrote him out of the show for a little while. There was a website that started up. Oh man. Save Danieljackson.com. It's either.com or.net, but it's still out. Not dot org, though. Not dot org. No, not dot org or dot gov. I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up being dot gov. Um but it was still up, and people would go out there every single day and try to convince them to bring Daniel Jackson back. Wow. So in the meantime, there was another alien who lived, well, human who lived off world, um, who ended up leaving his he had some conflict, like the the way they wrote it into the plot, like he had some conflict with his leaders of his world. Um, so he was seeking asylum on Earth and decided to join the SG1 team kind of as like the fill-in for Daniel Jackson. Okay. I thought he was a great replacement. Um while I'm happy that Daniel Jackson came back. Spoiler alert, he comes back season seven. Um, while I thought Daniel Jackson was great, I'm happy he was back. Jonas Quinn was a great addition to the team. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 36:08

Did they write him off then eventually, or was that did he stick around?

Break And Return To Fandom Culture

SPEAKER_02 36:11

He when Daniel Jackson came back, he went back to his homeworld and repaired that relationship. So conveniently, they repaired their relationship.

SPEAKER_03 36:22

Yes. Oh man. Okay. Well, um, I I guess you mentioned like as you were getting into the show, like you you you like there's an online community of support around this. Obviously, they they wouldn't have came back and started to uh possibly produce more shows related to the uh just Stargate in general. So obviously you've been a little bit of a part of like some of that online community. Can you talk to us about that a little bit?

Games, Toys, And The Odd Animated Series

SPEAKER_02 36:45

Or yeah, uh, so Gate World is like the online community. Um, it was started in 1999, it's been around, it's still active. Um the the show writers and the showrunners are also active on the subreddits as well. Um so when they announced that they were coming back, uh, they reached out to the uh the head of Gate World and brought him into it first and made the announcement together with them. Wow. So like they're really connected to the fandom and they listen to the fans, they understand like the fans are what made the show last so long and why it's still and why it's coming back is because of the fans.

SPEAKER_03 37:30

So have you have you found um, I mean, overall, like is is the fandom kind of I mean, I guess, especially you being somebody that came on later on, like were they are they accepting of like newcomers or is it kind of like one of those things? Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 37:45

Are they very accepting? So please join us.

unknown 37:48

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 37:49

I love that. Um well let's jump into our our group discussion. We'll go back and forth between Ben and I a little bit, asking some questions. Usually, uh, you know, we we like to try and jump in on this. I know you're doing most of the talking, but I'm I'm just enjoying like kind of learning a little more about the show. Um, but uh we'll I'll start off with a question that well, I'm sorry, I guess I forgot. We usually start with would you rather? So that's always fun to jump in.

SPEAKER_00 38:09

I'm gonna surprise that you were gonna jump over that.

SPEAKER_03 38:12

Yeah, so would you rather? I'll probably have to pause and stop you because kind of ask questions because I've got things in here that I'm not even completely familiar with. So that's fine. Well um so would you rather we'll start off with this one. Would you rather join SG1 for one risky mission or Atlantis for a full season?

SPEAKER_02 38:32

So I've I've thought long and hard about this one, and I think I would go with SG1 for one risky mission as opposed to Atlantis for a full season. I I say that because while I might die in this one risky mission, um I will most definitely end up being uh killed off in Atlantis for a whole season. Because the the enemies in Atlantis, the Wraith, um, they are way scarier than the gold. Um and Atlantis, it's like it was a one-way trip basically to Atlantis because there wasn't enough power to get back and forth between the two galaxies. Um, so if you ran out of coffee, you you're just out of coffee, kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03 39:22

Because so yeah. So they're stuck there the entire like the entire season, they are not going off of that world. It's just that's where they're stuck the entire time.

SPEAKER_02 39:31

So they can leave that world, but they can't necessarily go back to the Milky Way galaxy. They're in the Pegasus galaxy, okay, which requires more power to connect the two Stargates. So until they like they work on building a bridge of Stargates to kind of like make a longer tunnel so that way they can connect it easier, but um but yeah, it it it doesn't happen that often.

SPEAKER_00 39:57

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_03 39:58

So that series uh Atlantic. We we've brought it up a little bit in so far, but how how do you feel about that one in general? Like was it because obviously the team was different in that one, like you told us. Was it as good? I mean, did you enjoy the characters in that show as much?

Merch Show‑And‑Tell And Nostalgia

SPEAKER_02 40:11

I thought it was just great. Like I thought it was fantastic. Okay. It was just as good. I mean, it it when it was airing, it took place during part of during like the last few seasons of SU 1. So there were some episodes where as it was airing, it's like, oh, tonight you watch this episode of Atlantis. Oh, and it coincides with this episode of Interesting. Really? Yeah, that's cool.

SPEAKER_03 40:35

Yeah. Okay. Um, would you rather? So you just kind of walks into that from that last uh question. I'm probably gonna mispronounce this. Would you rather face a gold system lord or a Wraith Commander?

SPEAKER_02 40:49

You're pretty close. Goa old. Oh man, I knew I was gonna do it. We practice this. Goa old. There you go. Okay. Don't worry. They they talk about this in the show a lot and they they reference like people mispronouncing it all the time. Um, so you're you're good. Uh so would I rather face a go old system lord or Wraith Commander? I like I said, the Wraith are terrifying. I would rather face a gold system lord. Okay.

unknown 41:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:19

Would you rather be stranded on destiny or stuck on a random off-world planet waiting for rescue? Oh, off-world planet for sure.

SPEAKER_02 41:27

Yeah. Uh they even do an episode where Jack gets stuck off-world uh for months and it it he's not able to be rescued. So um, in that episode, there's a meteor shower that comes crashing down, and one of the meteors makes impact and it lands right on top of the Stargate. So he believes that he's stuck. Like he believes that it destroyed the Stargate because he couldn't get off world fast enough. Um, but months later they kept trying, and eventually they were able to find out that it just got buried. So they dug it up and he was able to go home.

SPEAKER_03 42:05

But now I should ask, so Destiny is that one is that like a starship? Is that a what Destiny is a ship?

SPEAKER_02 42:12

Um yeah, so it it's a ship created by uh a race called the Ancients, which are basically uh the first round of evolution of humans. Okay. So that's uh that's another cool thing that you find out in the show. Um this whole time. So the this race of ancients are the ones who built the Stargate. They are known as the gate builders. They lived on Earth uh uh millions of years before we do now. Um it it's talked about in the show that over time, like they they eventually evolved and ascended to a higher plane of existence, um, which can kind of coincide with like Christianity. Like, oh yeah, we've gone to heaven basically. Uh so we're all angels up there in our own plane of existence. Um and then human evolution began again after they left. And yeah, so interesting.

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SPEAKER_03 43:11

Uh this this does bring I said I said I had that question off air and I I wanted to bring it up. Is oh so Egypt is Egyptology is that what Egyptology, yeah. So that's where it kind of gets its start. Does it ever dive into other you said that it does get into other mythologies? Does it I mean like what what sorts of other mythologies does the show or shows dive into?

SPEAKER_02 43:32

So one of the main ones that it dives into is the Asgard, which I think is really interesting. Yeah, the Norse gods. Oh, okay. So the Asgard are actually the gray aliens from like Roswell. So if you think of like what aliens look like, they're like these weird gray things with the big beady eyes. Uh the Asgard are actually I've seen Thor. That is not what the Asgardians look like, obviously. So you're right, you're right. Yes, that is not what they look like. Um but uh they talk about that in the show because in the show they go to a planet that um has Thor's hammer like right outside of the Stargate, and it's there to protect that planet from the Goa Wolf. So if a Goa wood comes to that planet from the Stargate, they get zapped into like this cave where they can't escape. The only escape is death, basically. Um so they interact with this. So when they come through the Stargate with Tealk, he has a as a Jaffa, he has a Goold symbiote in his stomach. Oh that like the Jaffa, they are they are basically incubators for the gold until they mature enough to take a host. Oh, so yeah, it it's crazy. Like we can go into that if you want, but um so the this Thor's hammer takes Tealk and takes him into this cave uh like to get rid of him, basically. Um, so they have to go to try to save Tealk during that. Uh huh. They interact with this hologram that looks like the Norse god Thor, um, and they they solve this puzzle uh to prove that they are advanced enough, and then it reveals their true form as these gray aliens.

SPEAKER_03 45:33

Interesting. What about like Greek mythology that dive into that at all or not not so much? Um a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 45:40

Um it's it's not quite as in-depth, but um, they do make some references to like other gods and uh like Ball is one of them. Okay. Um I know that's not Greek, but like I'm just trying to think of some of the other major system lords that make an appearance. Um, they also get into uh different Asian cultures and different Asian theologies. Like there's also Lord You, which if you think of the Rush Hour movie, it's like, oh you you know me? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:15

So it's one of my favorite scenes.

SPEAKER_02 46:17

Anytime uh anytime he's on screen, he he's one of the oldest system lords. So anytime he's on screen, like all I can think about is that scene from Rush Hour.

SPEAKER_03 46:27

Oh, okay classic. All right, how about um I'll I'll give you a few more would you rathers? Okay. Um, would you rather so I'm gonna find another one that's like uh I I gotta get some some backstory too a little bit. Okay. Um would you rather fight with a Zat? Is it Zat? Or uh is it a P90? Is that a type of gun, right? Yeah, that's a type of gun. But for the rest of your off-world career.

GateWorld, Reddit, And Fan Power

SPEAKER_02 46:51

So what's a what's a set? A ZET uh is short for Zat Nicatel, which is a basically a handgun that the Go Old and Jaffa use. Okay. So it's funny. Um when they first introduced this gun at it at the end of season one, um, they're like, Well, how does this work? And Teal he explains it to him. He's like, one shot will stun your enemy, two shots will kill them, and three shots will make them disappear. Basically disintegrates them. Wow. So that's kind of a too OP of a weapon. They actually make callbacks to it later on. They're like, uh, so there's the the episode 200, they just do like a break the fourth wall kind of thing. It's just a funny taking jabs at it um at the whole series, and they're they make a reference to oh yeah, man, we three shots at disintegrate them. Like, why who would come up with that? Kind of thing. So it was really funny, but um, but yeah, and the P90 is what the the SU teams use, that's their uh standard loadout. I would probably still go with the Zat, even though it doesn't disintegrate people anymore. Sure, suddenly it just stopped doing that.

SPEAKER_03 48:05

That feature doesn't work anymore, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 48:08

But like at least you won't run out of ammo in that with that. So it because of the way it works, it's some energy weapon. So yeah, sure. Naturally science.

SPEAKER_03 48:18

Yeah. Uh would you rather deal with Rodney McKay on a bad day or Colonel Young on a bad day?

SPEAKER_02 48:25

So I would while so I would definitely deal with Rodney McKay on a bad day. I'm he annoys me to no end, um, but I he's a scientist at heart. Uh so I feel like I could deal with him. Colonel Young would beat the crap out of me. Gotcha. So I'm gonna avoid that altogether.

SPEAKER_00 48:50

Rodney McKay has some logic baked in there somewhere. Whereas, yeah, okay.

Would You Rather: SG‑1 Vs Atlantis

SPEAKER_02 48:54

So in the series, he is deathly allergic to citrus. So they actually it's very funny. Um, there's there's an episode of Atlantis because he's the science officer in Atlantis, um, where the leader of that SG team, Colonel Shepard, uh, he they like go to this planet where they have like this interactive table and it controls the real world outside. And um they think it's just a game. And he's like, I'm gonna have my people send Rodney's group like a bunch of lemons as a gift. So in the real world, they do actually send a bunch of lemons over to this uh colony, and it it's just it's just a funny joke.

SPEAKER_03 49:40

So that's great. All right, last one. Would you rather negotiate with a takra or a nox? Um the Nox, I should say.

SPEAKER_02 49:49

I would rather negotiate with the Nox as opposed to the Tokra.

SPEAKER_03 49:54

Oh, see, I did it again. I knew it. Okay, it's okay. So talk talk to me about both of those here.

SPEAKER_02 49:59

All right, so the Nox are an advanced race of beings who are far more advanced than anything we could ever imagine. But they are logical, they are easy to negotiate with, even though they they think we are very young and don't understand how things work. Yeah, they don't believe in harming anybody, they believe in harmony and peace and everything. It's it's great. Um while I probably won't get anywhere with the Nox, I'd still rather negotiate with them. While the Tokra are still kind of on our side, and they're the they're um essentially go old, but they are opposed to the whole gold system lord process. Like they they don't believe in taking humans as hosts forcefully, it's a true symbiotic relationship with the human host. Um but they're still kind of jerks, they still think they're better than everybody else.

SPEAKER_03 51:03

Well, you were saying earlier, they believe in in consent, right?

SPEAKER_02 51:05

And that's yes, it's a consensual relationship, whereas the go-old are like, no, uh, I'm gonna take you as a host.

SPEAKER_03 51:13

But yeah, man. All right. Well, let's let's dive into just some some deeper questions here rather than just the the 50-50 questions on the would you rather? Um Ben, why don't you start us off?

SPEAKER_00 51:24

Yeah, I have one that um I don't don't have written down, but uh it's just been bouncing around my head. What makes Stargate you think stand apart from Star Trek, Star Wars, Babylon 5, all these other space sci-fi epics?

SPEAKER_02 51:38

So for me, I feel like it's more grounded. Like while these other like Star Trek and Babylon 5 and all these other epics, like you were saying, are more they're more heavily sci-fi, whereas this it feels more grounded, like more this could actually happen.

SPEAKER_04 51:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 51:56

Um feels real to me.

SPEAKER_03 52:00

A lot of speculative I get I get what you're saying, yeah. Because like Star Trek is much more speculative and and same thing with Star Wars, like it's it's kind of out there.

SPEAKER_02 52:09

I I get what you're it's like if we're trying to think practically like how this would happen with today's technology or the technology of 1999 kind of thing. So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:21

Um if you could dial the gate to any planet without knowing what's on the other side, would you do it? And what gear are you bringing with you to try and survive that?

SPEAKER_02 52:31

Oof. I don't know if I would necessarily do that because there are some planets out there that are pretty dangerous. Like there are some that over time you the atmosphere is deteriorated, so you can't really breathe or anything. So I don't really know what I'd be getting into.

SPEAKER_03 52:50

I was wondering if that came up in the show because it was like so like at the beginning of the movie, it was like, oh hey, this atmosphere is breathable. It's like, well, is that the way immediately solve all that? Yeah.

Wraith, One‑Way Trips, And Survival

SPEAKER_02 53:01

You'll you'll find out if you do watch the show that a lot of planets look a lot like Vancouver, Canada. So isn't that where it was filmed? That's where most of it was filmed, yeah. Even though it takes place in Cheyenne Mountain in Colorado, it's it was filmed in Vancouver, Canada.

SPEAKER_00 53:17

All right. So man, yeah, it's funny. Along those lines, like where where was one of your favorite places that we've ever visited throughout any of the Stargate re universe?

SPEAKER_02 53:26

So there was a planet. Um it was the the god of that area was uh Pelops, um, another I I forget what pantheon he's from, but um he basically set up this world to see how humans uh age and evolve over time. And by doing that, he um he created these nanobots that got into these got into the people, and they only lived for a hundred days. They lived from like each day was a different year, essentially. So they lived for a hundred years, but within a hundred days.

SPEAKER_04 54:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 54:09

Well after they turn after they got rid of that and turned it off, people were able to live a lot longer. Um, but like the the whole area, it looked like ancient Greece.

SPEAKER_00 54:19

And it just well, I think Pelop Peloponnesian, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:23

The Peloponnesian Wars were Greek islands that yeah, yeah. So it was just like this this beautiful scenery. Like nice imagine like going to this world and spending your the rest of your life on this beautiful beach in ancient Greece. And live for a hundred years, like and live for a hundred years, yeah. Always have everything you need.

SPEAKER_03 54:43

So yeah. Um, so I don't know that we've gotten into this a lot, but I know that the the show kind of has this basis of having um like a month just monster of the week episodes that they're they're kind of going up against. So is there a creature or an anomaly that freaked you out the most in one of those episodes? Um, so yes.

SPEAKER_02 55:05

There so there are two I'll talk about. Um one of them is so they find a second stargate on Earth in Antarctica, um which is kind of cool. Um, Russia finds out about it, they end up taking it, and they are operating it with always Russia. It's always Russia, you know? Um, so they're operating it without the knowledge of the United States, and they go to this, they open up the gate to this one planet that is just like all what seems to be all water, but in reality, that water is a living creature. Oh and it in um when they go and explore, uh, part of that comes back with them and it's like stored in their body and it's it's controlling them, and it's like, oh geez, that's that's weird.

SPEAKER_00 55:56

So and with water on Earth, the way that we just constantly are recycling it, like that creature is going to spread. Awful.

SPEAKER_02 56:03

Yeah. Yeah. So so yeah, um, they eventually get the the piece of that water that they took back to the back to that planet, and they never go back there again.

SPEAKER_00 56:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:14

Sounds like a good idea.

SPEAKER_02 56:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:16

So that that's a bad one. What did the water? I mean, like, did it just take over people and like what was the it was it was kind of like sentient.

Weapons, Leaders, And Alien Allies

SPEAKER_02 56:24

Like it was one giant body, but also kind of like a hive mind thing. Um, it it took over some of the explorers um when they went through, and then when they tried to take it, when they tried to go back to see what happened, like why all the people in in the base were dying, um, they found out that the water was sentient because it started crushing their ship. Um so they were eventually able to leave, go get the the most recent of infected person, bring them back and uh release the water back, and they were able to escape. Sound creepy. Release the water back. Did he pee it out? No, it just came out of his mouth. Oh yeah, no, uh, no recycling. Uh, but I guess I I said there were two. The other one isn't necessarily a monster of the week, but every time he shows up on screen, I hate him. It is Senator Kinsey. He's a recurring character that starts showing up like later on. Um, he's he's a United States Senator who is who just doesn't believe that the Stargate is worth keeping up. And if we're not bringing back weapons, then we should just shut it down. And it's like he is he is an awful person. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_03 57:41

Well, very very much the the mindset, probably representative of of America. Yeah, it's all about the weapons. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:51

Um, okay, throughout all of the different Stargate teams, if you had to form your own team, who would you recruit?

SPEAKER_02 58:01

I would probably recruit uh Colonel Shepard, delete it. Tealk as like the token alien muscle tank guy. Umicer, yeah. It's gotta be Sam Carter. Because I at this point, either Sam Carter or another side character, Zelensky, he he's kind of cool, but he's he's like at the base science officer kind of thing. Um but yeah, I'd I'd probably go with Sam Carter. Um and for the for the intelligence guy, like the one who can speak all the languages and has a moral compass, um I don't know. Um I I know I mentioned him earlier, but I I have to go with Jonas Quinn. Okay. Honestly, yeah. It's it's a toss-up. Like Daniel Jackson's great, but like I I still like Jonas Quinn.

SPEAKER_03 58:56

So yeah, nothing wrong with that. Well, my my question is in the same vein, but um more related from like the I guess the Hollywood side of things. So we know there's another show coming, um, coming out. If you were in charge of casting that show, who would be your your ideal cast, or who would you love to see in a Stargate series? That is a great question.

SPEAKER_02 59:19

Uh I didn't write that one down, so I'm putting you on the spot. That was yeah, that it's a little on the spot. But um, you know, I don't know. I haven't really thought about that yet. I I just found out about this coming back like Thursday or Friday. Okay. Yeah. Um, and this is Monday for those of you who are watching it later. Um I I don't know. There's been a lot of buzz online and within the fandom, and people are wanting returning characters like Christopher Judge to come back for Tealk, which I think would be great because Jafar lived for a very long time. Um, so he could come back and make an appearance, but it I think it would just need to be a Fresh cast.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:01

Okay. Well, who do you who who are like some of your favorite, I guess, just stars in general that'd be like, okay, this is never gonna happen, but like who would be entertaining, I guess, to see in Stargate?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:13

So one person that I think would be entertaining to see would be Jensen Ackles. I don't know if you know who that is, but from Supernatural. Okay. Uh he played Dean. Oh, okay. He's also in The Boys. He plays Soldier Soldier Boys. Soldier of Fortune or is that Soldier Something. Okay. Um but uh but yeah, so because he's so involved with the boys, and that's also an Amazon show, yeah, and they're also doing a spin-off with him. Oh, they are? Okay. I I I'm pretty sure they are. It's it's unlikely, but I think he would be a great like Stargate commander or yeah, I can see that for sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:53

Yeah. Any chance of James Spader coming back to reprise would be so it'd be funny.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:59

I don't think he would reprise Daniel Jackson because uh Michael Shanks eventually took over as Daniel Jackson. Yeah, yeah. He would James Spader was Daniel Jackson in the movie. Michael Shanks made Daniel Jackson his case. As I say, in terms of screen time. Yeah. Um but he could come back as like the the general, like the leader of Stargate Command. He'd probably be good at that. I think he would be good at that.

What Sets Stargate Apart

SPEAKER_00 1:01:24

Yeah. A smaller commitment too, just every once in a while, just appear. Yeah. Well, kind of to close out our discussion in general and and and our time together, what have you heard about? Like you, I know you just said that you just heard about the new series, but like have you heard anything about you said a continuation? Like, so like is it still the main US Stargate? Do you think they've found another one? Anything like that?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:47

So I I'm pretty sure, and if I remember correctly, it's so it's gonna be a continuation of everything. It's not gonna be a reboot, it's not gonna be uh kind of it it's kind of gonna be a spin-off, I guess. Um but it's gonna be a continuation of the world that we've already built. And it's likely gonna take place it's on a different planet. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:09

So um but yeah. Nice. Okay, well what what mythology do you want them to dive into? Oh, they covered almost all of them.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:21

Okay, but I do think it would be kind of cool if they covered like went deeper into like the Greek and Roman mythology. Great. So I think that would be really cool. Awesome.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:35

Well, James, thank you so much. Yeah, absolutely. We appreciate you going here.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:39

Yeah, thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:42

I mean, this has been a lot of fun. I I really enjoyed learning more about the show, and I I'll tell you what, it's always I I enjoyed the last episode for the same reason, just kind of getting to experience something that I hadn't before. And so I'm looking forward to looking more.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:57

Yeah, good. If I have the time to watch another thing, then yeah, you've done great. Yeah, so yeah, thanks so much, James. Nick, why don't you tell us what's coming up on our next episode?

Favorite Worlds, Monsters, And Moral Foes

SPEAKER_03 1:03:06

Sure. Uh, so we are, you know, we're coming up into December, so the the holidays are right around the corner, and um, we're gonna do a very special Christmas episode um in which it's gonna it's gonna work a little bit different. Um so we're gonna be talking about uh a top five movies that we're gonna give the goaded title to. So top five Christmas movies um according to Fandom of Fandoms. So we're each gonna bring, actually, my wife's gonna come on the show. It's gonna be awesome. Um, so she's gonna be our guest. Uh, myself and Michael and Ben, we're all bringing our own um favorite Christmas movies to talk about. And then I'm also planning on putting out a poll and kind of getting a feel for uh the people that listen to the show and some people that maybe don't, um, what their favorite Christmas movie is that we can kind of bring in and talk about. So I'm really looking forward to it. We got to still kind of put the finishing touches on what that's gonna look like, but I think it's gonna be a fun episode for sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:00

Yeah, me too. Really looking forward to talking about it. All right. Well, thank you guys so much, and we'll see our listeners next time. Yep. Yeah, thank you. Well, we hope you enjoyed hearing about today's fandom. Thanks for joining us. Give us a follow on Instagram or threads at FOF.pod to stay up to date with all the latest, and check out the video version on YouTube at fandomoffandoms. Have a fandom that you want us to dive into? Send us an email at fandomofpodcast at gmail.com. Till our next adventure. Keep being passionate, keep being curious, and keep being a fan.