Eagle! Dive Into The Fandom Of Scrubs

A hospital sitcom that can make you laugh, tear up, and then laugh again shouldn’t work, but Scrubs somehow pulls it off. We’re joined by our guest Michelle to unpack why Bill Lawrence’s medical comedy still feels like the gold standard for heartfelt TV humor, from JD’s daydream-fueled narration to the friendships that make Sacred Heart feel like home.

We dig into what makes Scrubs stand out from other sitcoms and from full-on medical dramas: the end-of-episode lessons, the willingness to get heavy without turning bleak, and the character development that rewards rewatches.

From there, it’s fandom talk: the rewatch podcast, hot takes about Season 9, the running gags we never get tired of, and a round of Would You Rather questions that put Dr Cox, Kelso, the janitor, and Rowdy in the spotlight. We also share first impressions of the Scrubs reboot and what we hope it keeps (and what we hope it stops repeating). Subscribe for more fandom deep dives, share this with a Scrubs friend, and leave a review with your spiciest Scrubs take so we can read it next time.

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Life Updates And Guest Setup

SPEAKER_02 0:00

All right, gentlemen and lady, we are back for episode 22. Oh, 22? Yeah. Wow. Congrats, guys. Yeah, that's exciting.

SPEAKER_06 0:10

Yeah, very cool.

SPEAKER_02 0:11

Nick, what have you been up to?

SPEAKER_06 0:13

Uh, it's been kind of crazy. We uh we are are in contract on a house um just over the course of yeah, it was a few days, and so we've been working our way through that, and it's it's uh it's a busy time right now at the Dillon household trying to figure it all out. Um hopefully it just all goes smoothly. So that's the that's the main thing. We're gonna be uh buying first and then we're gonna sell the property after we've already bought, which is also kind of nerve-wracking. But it should sell fast. There's not a lot in our price point, so we're we're hopeful. We are hopeful. Awesome, man. That's that's really exciting. What about you? You you do anything?

SPEAKER_02 0:52

Uh our life. Sleep training. Yes, our life has been dedicated to sleep training in the la this week, and uh, you know, we're so grateful. It's going amazing. But I will say listening to the baby cry is just rips your heart to shreds. Yeah. So yeah, that's been the saddest part about it. But you know, she's sleeping through the night, which has not happened in months and months, and so we're like happier people now. I can tell the difference from Saturday even from the last time.

SPEAKER_03 1:21

I'd be surprised.

SPEAKER_06 1:22

Yeah, uh, just in a better mood more often, right? That's yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:27

Uh I was gonna say, well, I've talked to you guys about Brick Gun, but that was a good time. I know, Michael, you were you really missed out. I was so tempted to look for your Django Fett, but the lines it was it was pretty busy. And I mean, I wasn't sure if I had the 269 bucks or however much it's worth now. 400 actually. Oh my gosh, yeah. No offense. I'd love you, buddy, but we're not gonna drop 400 bucks on your Django Fett mini. No, it's all good. I don't blame you at all. Wow, yeah. But no, that was a good time. Um, and then this past weekend or yeah, was uh Casey's daughter's birthday party. Oh, that's right. Yeah, how was that? That was a fun time. You picked up the cake. How was the cake? It was good. I didn't get a piece because there were you know 10 six-year-olds that demolished it. But uh yeah, that was a good time.

SPEAKER_02 2:12

Yeah, very cool. All right, well, Nick, why don't you introduce our introduce our guest? Who do we have to do?

How Everyone Found Scrubs

SPEAKER_06 2:16

Absolutely. Uh this is my coworker, Michelle. So we're so thankful to have her on today. She's gonna talk with us about scrubs. Um, and we're very excited because obviously the reboot just you know kind of opened up. We're in the first few episodes of that, so we can talk a little bit about the the reboot as well as um you know the the original series. So why don't you go ahead and kick us off with some intro music, Michael? That's good. Hello and welcome to Phantom of Fandoms, the show where every single episode we are diving into worlds that fans love the most. And like I said, this week we are gonna be taking a look at Scrubs, and we are so thankful to our guest, Michelle, for being here. So uh, you know, thank you so much to her. And um, let's go ahead and just get started.

SPEAKER_02 2:57

Yeah. Well, Ben, why don't you start? What's your background with the show?

SPEAKER_03 3:00

I am a hardcore watcher of Scrubs. Uh introduced Nick to it, I take credit for that. Um it was throughout college my comfort show. Nice. Yeah. I had friends who like I I specifically remember I've seen a couple episodes, but at their house, I was like house sitting at one point during college, and they had like all the seasons, and I just like put some on, and that was like all I did for that weekend. I watched their house just I watch binge scrubs and ate pizza by myself, and it was a great time. As a again, a teenager, like, yeah, it's a pretty good time. And again, yeah, seriously. So yeah, um, and ever since then, like I said, it's been a comfort show of mine. But yeah, uh, and Nick.

SPEAKER_06 3:41

Yeah, so uh Ben Ben did introduce me to it. Um I can remember the very first time that we watched it was going to visit a friend um that no longer went to college with us, and the very I think my introduction to the show, which we'll get into later, I'm sure, is the musical episode. I think that was the very first episode that I watched um was that one because I think it was just a favorite of because I'm pretty sure Mark was into it too. Yeah, um, and so I think that was a favorite, and that was what we ended up watching um over at our friend's house that used to go to college with us. Um and uh yeah, that was fun. So since then it's kind of been um I I would say it's a comfort show for me too. Like it's one that I have watched a decent amount all the way through, um, but probably more so just like using it as something as background noise. Um, you know, I I like a lot of sitcoms and I'll do that with, but Scrubs is always fun. Um, my my wife, Tori, hates Scrubs. Oh, really? Oh no.

SPEAKER_03 4:41

Does it?

SPEAKER_02 4:42

Doesn't Tori kind of dislike everything you love? We've talked we've talked about on the show. We know the Muppets, she's a Muppets hater.

SPEAKER_03 4:49

She is a Muppets hater, she's a Scrubs hater.

SPEAKER_06 4:51

Um, it is a Muppet neutrality is one thing. Yeah, exactly. She's just uh uh against puppets in general. So um for Scrubs, her biggest uh gripe against it is she just doesn't like any of the characters. Um so they're not like it just doesn't speak to her in that way. And I'm like, man, I I mean I get it in some ways, but like there's some really great memorable characters in Scrubs. So I don't know. Michael, what about you, man? What's your what's your background?

SPEAKER_02 5:23

Yeah, well, once again, for the 22nd time, uh 21st, you led the Lego episode. Oh, that's right, that's right. Um, I have no background in the show. I mean, I've seen episodes, it's been on the background. It's weird. I almost scrubs and for whatever reason Malcolm in the Middle like are just so similar to me. Um, for some reason they just live in like a similar era in my mind. So I could really see Scrubs being a comfort show for me, just because again, it's you know one of those sitcoms I can just be on the background. Um, so but yeah, no, no uh background in it. So I'm I'm excited to learn.

SPEAKER_06 5:57

Are you much of a sitcom guy?

SPEAKER_02 5:59

Oh, I'm a I'm a diehard sitcom person. Yeah, I love sitcoms. I mean, I have them playing, you know, just whenever I'm doing random work.

SPEAKER_06 6:06

Like what is your favorite sitcom? Like if you had to pick one, I'm just curious.

SPEAKER_02 6:09

Definitely Seinfeld. So my top three are gonna be Seinfeld, Frasier, and then actually He's going real old.

SPEAKER_01 6:17

Come on for Fraser. Okay, great.

SPEAKER_02 6:19

Yeah, oh yeah, it's one of and then um I don't know. I would say, I mean, do we classify the office of the sitcom? Is that okay? All right, the office then for sure. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_06 6:29

Anyway, but two nineties ones there in the year that you're throwing in.

SPEAKER_02 6:32

Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 6:34

Well, Michelle, what about you? So what's your background with Scrubs? Go ahead and tell us a little bit about what's your how you got started in the in the show.

SPEAKER_01 6:40

Sure, yeah. I mean, it's a comfort show for sure. I don't remember how I stumbled upon it, but um I think I binged it once I'd seen it. And um, I don't know, just something I'll be I'll put it on in the background. I've I think I told you and only watched it through a couple times, but that was definitely untrue. Um I've got two pets that I've had that I've named after the show. Was one Rowdy? One was Rowdy. Um I think that she's a carbon copy of Rowdy, but alive. Um and then I had a cat. I had a cat named Pickles that was named after um the Mr. Bober character that would only say pickles. Yep. Um so two out of three pets have come from this from Scrubs uh nice characters, but yeah, not exactly.

What Makes Scrubs Stand Out

SPEAKER_03 7:22

Hey, pretty good references though. Yeah. All right, Nick, why don't you give us a little breakdown of what Scrubs is for anyone who may not know? Yeah, absolutely. And Michael. Yeah, for Michael. Thank you guys so much. Thank you.

SPEAKER_06 7:32

Uh Scrubs first premiered in 2001, and it quickly carved out a unique place in television. It's created by Bill Lawrence, and the show followed a young doctor, John Dorian, or JD, as he began his medical career at Sacred Heart Hospital alongside his best friend Turk. They just put Turk down on there, so uh fellow intern Elliott and the unforgettable Dr. Cox. What set Scrubbs apart from other medical shows was its blend of absurd comedy, heartfelt storytelling, and JD's constant internal monologue and daydream sequences. While the show was known for its goofy humor and running gags, it also didn't shy away from emotional realities of working in a hospital, often delivering some surprisingly powerful moments over its run from 2001 to 2010. Scrubs built a loyal fan base and became one of the most beloved sitcoms of its era, remembered just as much for its heart as it is for its humor.

SPEAKER_03 8:27

Nice. Michael, I'm gonna give you a button to use liberally. Ooh, okay. Nice. Especially when we go from segment to segment. Sweet. Yeah, that is irregular. Uh well, Michelle, why don't you start by thank you? Perfect. Talk to us a little bit about um what makes Scrubs stand out to you above other sitcoms? Because we've talked a little bit and I know there's a couple other you others you watch as well. But yeah, what what makes it stand out to you?

SPEAKER_01 8:55

Um, I mean, obviously it's hilarious. I think that some of the funniest things that I've ever heard and then repeated regularly have come from this. Um but but you're I mean, you did a great job of summarizing. I'm sure those are all your words. Yes, absolutely. Um, and they were great words, the best words. Oh no. Um But no, I mean they do a great job of balancing like the humor with the the heaviness, and they just always did a I don't know, but they never shied away from being a little too heavy for what you thought like a comedy show should be covering. And um, I just really love the character development. And I I was big on the music. Like music in Scrubs was like probably one of the bigger things for me if I don't know. It was up there definitely with the with the jokes. The music meant just as much to me if sure as the the content, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 9:41

Well, can we take a quick side side sidebar here? Yeah, sure. Well, what is the musical element of this? What like um like are you talking about the soundtrack or is it soundtrack like music in the soundtrack?

SPEAKER_01 9:53

I should use better terminology, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:54

Yeah, which uh why am I blinking on Cox's on again off again wife's name? Jordan, yeah. She built is Bill Lawrence's wife, the creator, and she would had a big impact from what I've heard in picking all the music for the show, which yeah, so a lot of credit goes to her for that.

SPEAKER_02 10:10

Okay, cool. Well, I had heard you guys talking about a musical episode before we started. So that's what I was trying to figure out. Is there is there like a musical element to this, or is it just like good soundtrack?

SPEAKER_01 10:21

Well, I guess there's there was probably a couple episodes where music became a thing, but that was the really the only one where we just do a really good job of like weaving in like emotionally appropriate music and just like I don't know, like just really making it I don't know, really special.

SPEAKER_03 10:33

Especially perfect encapsulation of mid-2000s indie uh see I'm really into that. Right. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:40

It was like yeah, exactly. It was all my favorite music, and then a lot of it became my favorite music if it was unknown before.

SPEAKER_06 10:46

I agree with that. There's uh and and it's funny too, it would it would sometimes acknowledge the music too. Like the music was also there were moments where they would just do there, there's terms for this. I don't remember what the other one was, but there's needle drops where it just like drops that song in there, and like the characters unaware that the song is going on. But then there are other times where the music is also a part of the show in such a way that um JD is listening to a song in his headphones and he puts it on, you know. Uh I think it was a George Michael song, wasn't it, that he was listening to in his headphones at one time. Uh then I don't know. There's just so many other points. He'll he'll throw on something. I know I know another one of my favorites is like he's taking the bubble bath and he cranks the dodo.

SPEAKER_01 11:32

Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:33

Or the uh the the airband the airband episode where uh some of the members of the hospital are in an airband and they're playing uh Boston. Okay, wow.

SPEAKER_06 11:44

Well and Ted, so rest in peace. Yes. Uh he that that was the main part where there were like big musical moments was that he was part of an a cappella band. And so they would come in, and it was actually like it was this real band, they would come in and perform on the show. I the worthless peons, I believe, right? Yeah, correct. So there was there's a lot of music in Scrubs. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:08

Okay, very cool. Uh I will say though, like you you pointed this out a little bit. Uh I think one of the best things that Scrubs does is it has a message every episode, and you uh know in the last like two minutes like how it all ties together. And that's you like Nick mentioned, like JD, the main character, has like a monologue that throughout the episode that you hear, so you hear a lot of his thoughts, and he usually wraps it up at the end with like, you know, oh, like here's some lessons we can take away from some of the things we've witnessed. And while it is a comedy, like to have like that pointed, like yeah, takeaway is is super interesting and different.

SPEAKER_02 12:42

Yeah, that's cool. That's kind that's very um antithetical to Seinfeld, where it there was no redeemable like takeaway or quality about the episode. It was just these terrible people doing something terrible, and that's it.

SPEAKER_06 12:55

Well, I would say what is it? Seinfeld has it has been recreated and it's always sunny, right?

SPEAKER_02 12:59

That was the Yeah, I think I've heard something similar. I would see I would I would agree.

The Musical Episode Favorites

SPEAKER_03 13:04

Yeah, yeah, that's funny. Yeah, great. Well, uh, Michelle, like should we just skip ahead? Do we should would someone start with the musical episode? Like I started Nick. So that's what I was thinking. Like I was thinking, what an interesting place to start.

SPEAKER_01 13:15

Because that's pretty far in, right? That's like season five or six or something. It's just a few several seasons in. So that's an interesting place and for you to be hooked as much as somebody who watched it from day one. Because there are not many uh pilot episodes of shows that I enjoy or would like watch again. They're oftentimes like even Fraser, like, I'll skip the first episode because I just can't do it. But Scrub's like, I'll always watch the first one, and I think that it's a great I think it's a great uh starting point. But it's interesting that um jumping in so far in, you were still sucked in.

SPEAKER_06 13:43

I think I was just interested to find out more about like some of the things that were going on that like they they're just especially when you're jumping in that far into a series, it's kind of like okay, I gotta know like what's the backstory here? Like what's going on? How how are these characters? Because at that point I think uh and I think JD's engaged, I think, in the in the uh episode. Or is he right? Is he with him?

SPEAKER_01 14:08

Is that right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 14:09

Maybe, yeah. Am I crazy? Yeah, it's been a long time. In any case. Um not as crazy as Hooch.

SPEAKER_01 14:14

Not as crazy as crazy. Which is crazy. Which is legitimately crazy.

SPEAKER_06 14:19

No, but I I don't know. I think it was that was the driving factor for me is the oh, I I've gotta I I wanna know more. I was just intrigued. I was I at that point had not seen, I didn't know that that was something that sitcoms did where they were just like, oh, we're gonna do a musical episode. And apparently that was a pretty common thing in the in the 2000s, and that was the first one that I experienced. Definitely one of the better ones that I know of.

SPEAKER_01 14:43

But yeah, I would agree with that.

SPEAKER_06 14:44

Since then, I think, I mean, like, what are they? Because I know like uh community did one, and I remember there's there's some other didn't Buffy do one? That's not sick. I think so.

SPEAKER_01 14:55

Again, mid-2000s. Oh, did they? I think so. Who did it?

SPEAKER_03 14:58

Was it a spoof off of Scrubs? Because I feel like it had to have been.

SPEAKER_01 15:01

I I mean, I don't know. As serious, as spoofy as it can be with how serious Gray's Anatomy was. But I was just thinking that like did Gray's Anatomy come after JD's inner monologue? Was Meredith Gray's uh inner monologue a copycat of JD?

SPEAKER_03 15:15

Oh I don't know. When did Gray's Anatomy start? Oh yeah, I don't know the time.

SPEAKER_06 15:21

Man, that's one that's been around for yeah, again. Well, and it's still on, so I mean but is it still on?

SPEAKER_01 15:26

I think so.

SPEAKER_06 15:26

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_01 15:28

Meredith Gray is Meredith actually gray now. That's good.

SPEAKER_03 15:35

Okay, well, back to the musical episode while Michael's looking this up. Sure. What's your favorite song in the musical episode?

SPEAKER_01 15:40

Um so I mean, I feel I've gotta I've gotta give credit to Guy Love, of course. Um I liked uh what's Carla's song where she says for the last time is it the last time I'm Dominican. And then um everything comes down to Pooh, obviously. I mean, there's just so many good ones.

SPEAKER_06 15:59

They're all they're all classics. Right.

SPEAKER_01 16:01

Uh any faves.

SPEAKER_06 16:02

Yeah, definitely everything comes down to poo. Yes, I all three of those for sure. What's um what's Cox's rant song in that one? Oh, I I don't even know if it has a name, but it's a incredible. It's a patter song, so yeah. No, they're they're good. What'd you what'd you find, Michael? Anything?

SPEAKER_02 16:18

Yeah, I I mean you guys are gonna be riveted by this. Uh so Grey's Anatomy came out in 2005. So well after Scrubs. Yeah, now the musical episode of Scrubs came out in 2007. So uh I didn't get a chance to look at it.

SPEAKER_01 16:34

Grays Anatomy's as much yeah, theirs is way farther in.

SPEAKER_02 16:37

Yeah, okay. So okay, that makes sense. I was gonna yeah, try to figure that out. Are you Gray's Anatomy fan too?

SPEAKER_01 16:41

I've watched through it, but I mean I've only probably half of it now. When I stopped watching, I'd watched all the seasons, and now there's another 15 of them.

Scrubs Versus Other Medical Shows

SPEAKER_03 16:49

Oh, more than that if it started in 2020. No, it is 20, yeah, right. Okay, well, so compare Scrubs as a medical comedy show to a medical drama such as Grays.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

I mean, I think both have their merits, but I mean I appreciate the comedy side of it more. I can't handle the the heaviness, it's a little too much for me. It's like overtly heavy versus Scrubs, like kind of evens it out with the comedy, so I can kind of vibe with that a little bit better.

SPEAKER_06 17:18

Okay. Were any of you guys house fans? Oh, yeah. I watched it my whole childhood. Yeah, loved house.

SPEAKER_02 17:23

Yeah. But that was more like it was definitely heavy, but like I don't know. There was uh like a whimsical kind of element to it. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 17:32

At parts, yeah, I would say so. It did get it was. Yeah, it was heavy. It was heavy, for sure, yeah. It was, yeah. But yeah, no, I I think um I think that's I mean that's another thing. You talked about what makes Scrubs unique is the fact that I mean, have there been I'm sure there have, but like it they're probably like all in the vein of Scrubs, more of those comedy, like medical comedy things. And it's a hard thing, I think, to to put into comedy. I mean, it's the same thing. Um I don't know. I mean, it's the same as why I think it's hard to to have like a sitcom about teaching, you know, like there's teachers or characters in shows, but like the actual thing itself, uh, it's it's a harder thing. And being in a hospital, much, much harder to to be funny about that as it is to be like, oh, this is really drama and serious and everything else. And so it was cool to see that happen.

SPEAKER_02 18:21

If there have been other like hospital comedy shows, they have certainly not come anywhere near what Scrubs did because I don't know of it. Like I can't even think of it off the top of my head. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 18:31

No, well, there's shoot, I've I feel like the the dramas were a dime a dozen at one point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 18:37

Didn't Comedy Central have one about like a clown hospital at one point or something? I swear I've remember seeing something about it. I'll have to look it up later. But yeah.

SPEAKER_06 18:47

I uh I was saying so one thing that has been brought up before, and I obviously I don't work none of us work in the industry, but like allegedly scrubs, according to actual people that work in the medical industry, is fair like not I don't know that accurate's the right word, but like matches tone of working in a in a show, and like that feeling as as an intern, a medical intern, it kind of captures that pretty well compared to some of the other other shows that are out there, the dramas that just kind of get too big and over the top. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:20

Well, I know that creator Bill Lawrence often references the real JD if you ever hear him talk about it, which I think was was it a college fr friend of Bill's, I think.

SPEAKER_06 19:29

Yeah, he knows him somehow.

SPEAKER_03 19:30

I don't know if it's yeah, but a real doctor who like he hired to basically come on the show and be like the consultant for all anything medical.

SPEAKER_01 19:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:39

So yeah, I think it did a great job, uh, from what I can understand.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

But I've heard the same thing that even down to like the um like the nurses' role in things and how much control and how much in charge they really can be in their own ways, and just I don't know, I'd I'd heard that a lot of the different dynamics were as were pretty accurate considering.

SPEAKER_02 19:57

For sure. That's funny. Wow, interesting, nice.

SPEAKER_06 20:00

So if you had to recommend somebody to start someplace in the show, it probably wouldn't be in the middle of it. Would you just say like start it from the beginning? You love the the uh pilot episode.

SPEAKER_01 20:10

Yeah, I would say so. Just I I love I like the pilot episode a lot, and then I can I don't know. The JD and Elliot thing really frustrates me. So like sometimes I would say maybe skip the first couple seasons to get past the first couple like back and forths, but um but I don't know. I think that there's just there's so much in all of the seasons. I wouldn't, I just there's I wouldn't want them to miss anything. There's just so much good in all the seasons.

SPEAKER_06 20:34

No, that's fair. Well, we always like to have our guests try to give an impassioned please. I know we've captured on some of the uh you know the main elements of Scrubs and what makes it great, but if you had just 30 seconds to a minute to convince somebody why they should watch Scrubs, what would you say to them?

SPEAKER_01 20:51

Um I mean I would say that if you want to watch a show that can make you laugh and make you cry, and then probably hopefully make you laugh again, then um this is a good one. And you've got funny characters and um, the music, yeah, the music color, right? Um no, I mean I they've got great characters. The characters do a great job of developing over the course of the series. They tackle real life problems, both personal and within the medical industry. And um, and like I said, the soundtrack for me was is just like a uh a clincher for sure. But I think it's just it's a feel-good show that'll make you think and make you laugh.

SPEAKER_06 21:27

It's a good, good impassioned plea. Love it. Great.

SPEAKER_03 21:32

Just gonna let jam out the Laszlo Bane for a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 21:36

Yeah. Nice. Oh, that's great, awesome. Well, um, before we jump into our next segment, why don't we just take a quick break and uh we'll be right back.

SPEAKER_00 21:47

Out the door, just in time. Head down the 405. Gotta meet the new boss by 8 a.m.

SPEAKER_06 21:57

I'm feeling this. The phone rang. I love it. Miss Acapella music that was Okay, okay, okay. Did it go anywhere? I feel like it had its payday in the uh the 2010s, you know? Yeah. And then just kind of I don't know. It's not not near as cool these days. I mean, I wasn't ever cute cool as well.

SPEAKER_02 22:15

It's kind of a meme thing now, right? Well, if I can just um you know give some trivia to our listeners here. So Ben's the trivia guy. Because I'm the trivia guy. So Ben Nick and I and a couple other friends, we were in an Acapella group in college. We were called one. We were called Men of Note. We played one gig. It was for a Valentine's Day gig. And I think there is a video on Facebook. If someone wants to dig for it, I think it's out there. It exists.

SPEAKER_03 22:41

What do we even sing?

SPEAKER_02 22:42

Oh it was a Beatles song, but I don't remember what it was.

SPEAKER_06 22:45

Yeah, shoot.

SPEAKER_01 22:47

Do you guys have any lovers out there who can report back that they were at that gig? Yeah, maybe. They fell in love that night because of that.

SPEAKER_03 22:59

Well, yeah, you guys play. Well, I know Michael, you played on the other channel on a couple. Yeah. All right, Nick.

Rewatch Podcast Takes And Season Nine

SPEAKER_06 23:04

Do you want to transition us here? Absolutely. Uh, we're gonna jump into our fandom culture. Uh so I don't know if you have an answer to this one or not, but is there any other content outside of the show like adjacent to Scrubs that you enjoy? Creators otherwise? I didn't know. Like, I was I didn't I didn't prep you for this part.

SPEAKER_01 23:24

Sure, no, you didn't. I mean, yeah, like I guess we talked about the connection, like Bill Bill Lawrence being the connection, but that's he's probably the only one that I'm super familiar with.

SPEAKER_06 23:31

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 23:32

You can you're welcome to enlighten me.

SPEAKER_06 23:33

I I don't have like, I mean, I guess there's not like tons of Scrubs creators that I'm aware of.

SPEAKER_03 23:38

Yeah, I mean, we could talk about the podcasts, of course. Yeah, that's true. Fake doctors, real friends.

SPEAKER_06 23:43

Did you listen to any of the podcasts?

SPEAKER_01 23:44

No, I haven't listened to the I know I should, right?

SPEAKER_06 23:47

Here's here's gonna be another Okay, so we can get into our hot takes too much. Yeah, I got some I've heard some my my hot take when it comes to the podcast is I kind of regret starting to listen to it because I did I loved JD quite a bit, you know. As in Zach Braff. Yeah, Zach Braff. And and then after listening to the podcast, I wasn't as big of a Zach Braff fan. Like he's fine. I'm still a big Donald Faison fan, though. He he's phenomenal. I I would love to hang out with him.

SPEAKER_02 24:16

So wait, what what changed for you? Like, why what is about Zach Braff?

SPEAKER_06 24:19

I just wrong like I feel bad. This is uh You won't hear it, it's okay. He's gonna comment on it later that I'm I'm hating on him.

SPEAKER_03 24:30

We're gonna go viral on TikTok just okay.

SPEAKER_06 24:32

And go because of this this moment right here. That's right. No, he I don't know. It was uh so when they started it off, they didn't really have much of a plan as far as the way that they were doing it, and the disorganization of it kind of drove me a little bit crazy, is that they'd get in there and they're like, all right, we're gonna watch this episode and we're gonna talk about it, and then they'd talk about like other stuff that was completely unrelated for three quarters of the episode. And so I'd be like, just okay, can we let let's move on? Like, let's let's keep things moving a little bit. Yeah, and that I think that was initially what kind of is like uh that's why I didn't continue listen listening to it. And it was mostly Zach Braff, I feel like, that got them off. It could be, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:13

Cause I mean, it was it was very much more a behind-the-scenes podcast, other than talking about the episodes itself. Just like you got a lot more trivia on the general, like everything that happened behind the the camera.

SPEAKER_06 25:24

But um not only that, it was just during it was during COVID. Yeah, so they were just I think they were bored. Yeah, sure, sure. Yeah, it was the wave of rewatch podcasts, like it was part of that.

SPEAKER_02 25:35

Yeah, no, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_06 25:36

But Donald Fay's not now, I he's he's cool, dude. I uh yeah, he he seems I I've always liked Donald since um uh I was man, I would say probably since uh remember the Titans.

SPEAKER_02 25:47

That is oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 25:49

Yeah, crazy, right? Ryan Gosling was in the Ryan Gosling was there. So many, yeah. Throwback.

SPEAKER_03 25:55

Yeah, did you not know that? No.

SPEAKER_02 25:56

I was sunshine, right? Sunshine, yes. That's correct. I honey, we need to go back and watch that if you're listening to this.

SPEAKER_06 26:04

That is um my favorite sports movie of all time, I think. I do not know that.

SPEAKER_02 26:09

No, that's fair. Yeah, I get that. Yeah, no, it's a good one. Well, Nick, you shared a hot take. Michelle, I mean, what do you have any hot takes about the show?

SPEAKER_01 26:16

Um I don't know. I don't want to go.

SPEAKER_03 26:20

Okay, you want you want to talk about the ninth season?

SPEAKER_01 26:23

Yeah, exactly. So I guess that yeah, my hot take would be that the ninth season didn't need to happen, but I don't know that that's hot a hot take because I bet that's a common take. I'll share one.

SPEAKER_06 26:32

I don't hate the ninth season.

SPEAKER_01 26:34

It's okay.

SPEAKER_06 26:34

It's it's fun. I uh I don't even hate the the new characters in it. Like I I don't know, like James Franco is is memorable to me. Like he's fun. Dave Franco? Dave Franco, his brother. Oh sorry, you're right. Dave Franco, you're right. Dang it. Yeah. Um and then uh oh man, I can't remember the the girl who plays the the main lead. Yeah, I don't remember her either. I always appreciated uh she was not just in the last season, but Joe. Um her she her character, and along with um uh what's the guy that she dates in the last one? I can't remember his name, but um I don't know that just there were parts of it that for me were memorable and that I appreciated. And like I go back and I watch, I'm like, all right, this is kind of funny.

SPEAKER_02 27:13

Like this is.

SPEAKER_03 27:23

Or just when it comes to the ninth of something. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_06 27:28

Thank you. Thank you. It's fair. Yeah, if there's nine of something, I'm gonna like it. Everybody else is gonna be like, no, this is garbage, like whatever.

SPEAKER_02 27:33

It kind of sounds like I should start with season nine because I'm starting at a very low point in the show and it only goes up from there.

SPEAKER_03 27:41

Nah, but you don't even know the characters and the format though. Like, I mean, uh okay. So the ninth, the ninth season, it's kind of like they wanted to do what if you watch ER at all? No. Okay, well, ER, you know, medical drama show where they were constantly changing out cast. Because you know, like people get hired and fired or die or whatever, like yeah, but like they were trying to do that same thing where they were like, Oh, the people who were the interns in the first chunk of the series are now the teaching teaching doctors, and there's a new wave of interns because it was called Scrub's med school, wasn't it? Something like that or yeah, yeah. So yeah, it was yeah, it's supposed to be like the new wave.

SPEAKER_06 28:17

I don't believe Bill Lawrence was involved. I don't think so either.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

Might be right.

SPEAKER_02 28:21

Guys, we've talked about this when the showrunner is out, the show just yeah, as we're gonna go. He's too busy with Cougar Town now, right?

SPEAKER_06 28:29

Yeah, he uh I I know also it was I think that was right around the time of the big writer's strike. I heard a story about this recently that the writer's strike happened, and then that was one of the few shows that was on the air getting you know new episodes closer to around that time. So I know they put some that was I think it was uh John C. Riley was talking about it on um uh I don't know, some some interview that he had. John McGinley? John McGinley. I don't know John C. Riley was on it. What an interesting thing then from him. I'm listening up Britain to see. It's because I didn't I didn't get the the guest name wrong, so now I'm getting it. Yeah, it's either one or the other.

SPEAKER_03 29:10

Well you talked about your love for Donald Duck anyway, so Donald Duck, is that what I said? No, you said Donald's not just I'm just playing off the next year. Keep up. No, I thought you were screwed. Oh good. What do I give to do with Donald Duck impersonation right now, but I can't? I think I've heard you do it. When?

SPEAKER_01 29:33

Right now.

SPEAKER_03 29:35

Right now.

SPEAKER_01 29:36

So Michelle.

SPEAKER_03 29:37

Uh there's a there we go. Nice. Sorry. The crickets works as well. Uh I don't even know where I was gonna go. But um any other hot takes about the show and any of its characters that you feel like other people love and you hate?

SPEAKER_01 29:53

Um, I mean, I don't I don't think that it's like a my own opinion, but I the JD and Elliot love story just really grinds my gears. Go back and forth a couple times, but then get it over with.

SPEAKER_03 30:03

And you know. Well, and then like you and I we th we said something a little bit about this off air, but Michael, the new season, spoiler for anyone, uh hit that eagle button. I gotta go back to the page. Ah, Michael.

SPEAKER_04 30:16

Eagle! Nice.

SPEAKER_03 30:19

Uh spoiler for the new season, but uh they've broken up JD and Elliot again, which is like the fourth time or something like that. And they had like they're married and have a kid. They were married and have a kid together. And so now it's just like, okay, it feels like we're doing this just to do it and cause some tension.

SPEAKER_01 30:36

It does.

SPEAKER_03 30:36

It's contrived.

SPEAKER_01 30:37

And I would really love if they would just not have them go in that direction. I think I was saying this to you, that I would just love if they could like I don't know, show that like sometimes that's just how it goes. And like you don't have to get the couple back together.

SPEAKER_03 30:48

Right.

SPEAKER_01 30:48

And if that's what works out, then fine. But like it just feels like sometimes they like to force it together, and they've I feel like they've kind of illustrated why they're not a great couple. So to me, kind of putting them back together is just forcing it for the sake of the yeah.

SPEAKER_06 31:01

And Bill Lawrence isn't one to to do it just for the sake of it. I mean, unless he I mean, now he is back on network television, so they could try and say, like, oh no, you need to you need to have this back and forth, that's what they expect. But like, I'm thinking about Ted Lasso. Yeah. And that's that's kind of a part of that show, is the oh okay, Ted Lasso and his wife. Like, yeah, ultimately, no. That's spoiler. Spoiler. Right.

SPEAKER_03 31:24

Oh gosh. Well, um, that kind of brings me into we're gonna skip ahead to it a little bit just because I want to know this question. Who do you think is the best romantic interest that JD had? If if you know, if it's not JD and Elliot, sure. Who would you wish JD would have ended up with? Who did you think? Gift shop girl. Gift shop girl, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:45

Um I mean, I liked I liked Kim a lot. I thought that that could have worked out. Um, and I appreciated that he, because that was where he went at the end, right? He liked her um to go live near her, which I appreciated. Um, and I liked Kylie way back. Oh, yeah, Kylie. She was just a nice girl. She was a bartender, does that sound right? Yeah, so she was nice.

SPEAKER_03 32:04

I um I like Mandy Moore's character.

SPEAKER_01 32:06

Oh, yeah, I was gonna say Julie, the one who didn't laugh.

SPEAKER_03 32:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:08

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 32:10

He broke up with because of the Yeah, so she they they broke up because JD got annoyed that she doesn't laugh, she just says that's so funny.

SPEAKER_02 32:17

This sounds like a very Seinfeld ass storyline. Like that. If you told me that was a Seinfeld episode, I'd be like, Yeah, I think I remember that.

SPEAKER_01 32:25

George would be saying that he'd be complaining, like well, and then afterwards, after he I think it was when he broke up with her, he said to Turk, Notice that she's actually crying. She caught saying that's so sad. That's good. That's good.

SPEAKER_03 32:38

That's really funny. Um JD was kind of a jerk sometimes.

SPEAKER_01 32:41

Yeah, he really could be.

SPEAKER_06 32:42

Yeah, he definitely was. That's funny.

SPEAKER_03 32:45

She took a picture on a unicorn for him.

SPEAKER_06 32:48

Yeah, no, she was I I Kim for sure. I think for me it's Kim. Uh they they had a good dynamic, and I was kind of butt, like I remember watching it for the first time thinking like, oh, they gotta like they gotta end up together, right? This is gonna happen. Yeah, and then yeah, not not working out.

SPEAKER_03 33:03

I don't even remember what broke them up. She was about to have the the kid, right?

SPEAKER_06 33:08

Yeah, well then she had a freak out and then left to so she left town and goes to work at the other hospital.

SPEAKER_03 33:15

And then he hook up with Elliot or something.

SPEAKER_06 33:17

No, no, no, so just she she leaves to go work at the at the other hospital, and remember he doesn't he didn't know about the baby and then she's gonna be a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 33:23

Well, yeah, she thought that he thought she miscarried. So he thought that like that's right.

SPEAKER_02 33:30

Yeah, then Caesar. They were on a break? Yeah.

Would You Rather Scrubs Edition

SPEAKER_06 33:35

But uh yeah, no, that's uh I I think Kim for me is is is my favorite. Um well let's let's jump in. We like to start off our our question or general question section with uh would you rather and uh I like to I like to start off with this, it's fun. Um would you rather be mentored by Dr. Cox or Kelso?

SPEAKER_01 33:56

So I mean I think I would say Dr. Cox anyway, but I I don't know that I have like the um emotional fortitude to have someone as a mentor like him. Um but like Dr. Kelso, especially in season like later on, five and six, I think. I would I think I would like being mentored by Dr. Kelso.

SPEAKER_03 34:11

When he just stopped caring? Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 34:13

So like previously he was just an old, like, I don't know, he was a grumpy old boss, and then he became a hilarious grumpy old boss.

SPEAKER_06 34:20

And I just he was real mean in those first couple seasons. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

And I just I yeah, I appreciated that he I don't know, maybe not lightened up, but yeah, well, and that's I put this question on here because again, like Dr.

SPEAKER_03 34:30

Cox seems like the go-to answer, but again, you have to be able to withstand some berating because like yeah, he's not a nice mentor.

SPEAKER_01 34:38

Right, exactly. And yeah, I don't know that I have the um the the gumption to deal with a mentor like that.

unknown 34:44

Sure.

SPEAKER_06 34:46

Uh would you rather have to wait in line for coffee bucks or give Rowdy a bath?

SPEAKER_01 34:50

Oh well, I mean, I'm a little biased, but I'd give Rowdy a bath. I already do it once a week.

SPEAKER_03 34:55

But um, once a week, Michael, you need some context here. Uh Michelle, would you like to give Michael some context on one who Rowdy is?

SPEAKER_01 35:03

Oh, so Rowdy is their um Turk and Jadie's taxidermied dog.

SPEAKER_02 35:09

Oh never they never owned him as a live dog. Correct. But your dog Rowdy is not taxidermied dog.

unknown 35:15

Correct.

SPEAKER_01 35:16

She is alive and well.

SPEAKER_06 35:17

When she first told me that she had a rowdy, I thought it was a taxidermy.

SPEAKER_01 35:21

No, she's just named Rowdy. I think she looks a lot like her. I could show some pictures later, but um but yeah, I think she looks a lot like her. So we named her Rowdy, and we just I would I loved getting to say rowdy no, like they do on the show all the time. And I just thought it was hilarious by a little joke for me.

SPEAKER_03 35:35

That's that is very funny. They would they would play pranks with this tax name or dog and just like move it all over the place and be like, Rowdy, how'd you get here? Like, so dumb.

SPEAKER_06 35:47

What which which game would you rather play with JD and Turk? Uh finger or toe or find the saltine?

SPEAKER_01 35:52

Oh, find the saltine for sure, right? I don't know, they're both pretty crazy.

SPEAKER_06 36:01

They're dumb little bits.

SPEAKER_01 36:02

Dumb little bits, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 36:03

Um would you rather experience JD's daydreams constantly or hear Dr. Cox's rants every day?

SPEAKER_01 36:11

Well, if they're not being directed at me, I could listen to the rants all day. But otherwise, I'll take the daydreams because some of those are pretty good.

SPEAKER_06 36:18

There were some good ones.

SPEAKER_01 36:19

Do you guys have any favorites? If I can ask my own question.

SPEAKER_06 36:23

Um I love when they do the wrestling one. I think that one cracks me. They do that a couple times. Yeah. I think they come back to it. I think it's even in the new season, if I'm not mistaken.

SPEAKER_03 36:31

I feel like there's one where Turk actually has the daydream and he's Indiana Jones.

SPEAKER_06 36:38

That's a good one. It's always the colon. Yep. Yeah. Uh uh, would you rather work a full shift with the janitor targeting you or have Dr. Cox critique everything you do? We've already several of these have centered around Dr. Cox. Right.

SPEAKER_01 36:52

Well, I mean, he's a big he's a big part of it because you have to be able to withstand a lot. Um I think if it was just a shift, I would take the janitor. I want to see what he can throw at me. He comes up with some pretty good stuff.

SPEAKER_06 37:04

Uh last one. Would you rather attend Ted's band performance or Turk's surgical karaoke night?

SPEAKER_01 37:11

Uh I think that I'd rather go to Ted's band performance. I think the worthless peons are a pretty good performing group. I don't want to talk to them afterwards, but I'll go watch him sing.

SPEAKER_06 37:20

I think where the the the surgical, so this is something that you don't you don't see it. It's it comes up in the show a little bit, but not I feel like it needs a little bit of background, is that the fact that Turk is always playing music. Like when you're they're in the OR and they're operating, there's music going on, they're doing something, and so Turk's got just ridiculous songs playing all the time.

SPEAKER_01 37:39

So we like argue over who gets to control the music, which I've I imagine might be a real thing. I mean, you're in there doing a surgery for 12 hours, you get the right to decide what your ears listen to.

SPEAKER_02 37:50

So I noticed just in some of these questions, are there characters that are referred to by their job title? So, like the janitor. Like, do we know the janitor's name? Funny you should ask.

SPEAKER_01 38:00

Funny you should ask. Do we know the janitor's real name?

SPEAKER_03 38:03

It might be Glenn Matthews.

SPEAKER_06 38:06

What was the other name that somebody calls later?

SPEAKER_02 38:09

Or you guys said like the gift shop girl. Does she have a name? No. No.

SPEAKER_06 38:13

Wow, okay. So I mean it's all told through the perspective of of JD. Right, right. So JD is kind of known for giving uh ridiculous nicknames to people. And in fact, it comes up in one of the episodes. In one of the new episodes.

SPEAKER_03 38:27

Especially.

SPEAKER_06 38:28

Oh, okay. Does it?

SPEAKER_03 38:29

Yeah, it does in one of the new episodes, but we can get into that. What were you talking about?

SPEAKER_06 38:32

Um, I was talking about uh oh man, when the the janitor was was making a challenge to him to say what everybody's name was because he calls them by the wrong name.

SPEAKER_01 38:41

Because he has just pick a name that works to describe them and not go no go no deeper.

SPEAKER_06 38:45

So there's uh oh man, there's several. So you got Snoop Dogg intern, is another one that's like uh beard face, yeah. Dr. Beard Fissa. Dr. Beard Fissa.

SPEAKER_03 38:55

Uh Colonel Doctor. Colonel Doctor. Colonel Doctor is a good one, yeah. Because he looks like the Colonel.

SPEAKER_06 39:00

Yeah, like the Colonel Chicken.

SPEAKER_03 39:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 39:02

Is there any others? I'm trying to think.

SPEAKER_03 39:03

Uh those are the ones that immediately come to mind.

SPEAKER_06 39:06

But the janitor was uh, yeah, that was always the the running gag kind of throughout the the show was that nobody knows what janitor's name, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:16

Who played the janitor? Neil Flynn. Neil Flynn, yeah. He was that's right. I'll say I know who I know. What's it called?

SPEAKER_01 39:22

The fugitive that they and I love that they're gonna be.

SPEAKER_03 39:23

Oh my gosh, yes.

SPEAKER_01 39:25

So he was in the fugitive, if you recall. We've seen that movie. No, Harrison Ford? It's so good. I no, I know the fugitive, I know who's Harrison Ford, but so Neil Flynn is in that movie. He's the guy that chases, he's one of the detectives.

SPEAKER_03 39:36

I don't know. Was he cop or cop detective?

SPEAKER_01 39:38

Somebody he chases Harrison Ford at some point in that movie and shouts Kimball at him, I think.

SPEAKER_03 39:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 39:43

I need to rewatch the page.

SPEAKER_01 39:44

And then they kind of play on that in a scrubs episode.

SPEAKER_02 39:46

Wow, that's so funny.

SPEAKER_06 39:48

I love that. Yeah. There's some good moments. I think another one of my favorite janitor moments is when he's watching The Sixth Sense. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:56

And JD spoils it for him. No, it was Dr. Cox because Dr.

SPEAKER_06 39:59

Cox is mad at him for something. I can't remember what it was.

SPEAKER_01 40:03

Oh, you ruined the game for him. Yes. Right? Yeah, Dr.

SPEAKER_03 40:05

Cox is gonna be a game.

SPEAKER_01 40:06

Oh, yeah. There was some, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:08

Lakers game or something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 40:10

Yeah. No, there's some there's some good moments for sure. But yeah, there are a lot of uh nickname characters in the in the show that you don't actually know the name of them. Some of them do come up, I feel like. They're they do name, I feel like, uh I feel like they do name uh uh Snoop Dogg intern at some point and say what is I can't remember what it is, but it's just it's I believe it's eagerly or eagerly, equally as Gangsta.

SPEAKER_03 40:33

Yeah, it's if I remember correctly. Or either that or it's like completely opposite, and it's like Ronald something. I think Ronald might be. Okay. Okay, um, since we're talking about minor characters, what's one minor character that you feel like you wish you had had seen more of?

SPEAKER_01 40:51

Gosh, I don't know, not seeing more of. I love the Todd. I know he's the worst, but like I love the Todd. Um I don't know. I I liked all of the I liked each of the family members that they would bring in, like Jordan's sisters, okay. Um I guess her sister, like Gwyntera Reed, and then like um JD's brother and his dad. So it was like John Ritter and Tom Kavanaugh. I just thought they did a great job of bringing in like good people that did a good job of playing what they needed JD's family to be or Jordan's family to be. I don't know, I can't think of anybody the janitor's brother. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 41:24

The the janitor allegedly has a twin brother, but it's just the janitor being. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:30

Wasn't he talking like a British accent or something? It's really funny.

SPEAKER_06 41:35

Oh yeah. There's the the janitor, uh, man, I would have I I think for me it'd be the janitor just because there was plenty of him in there, but like just every time that he got the the chance to just do something wild, he was so over the top. And I think there was uh from what I have of gathered from my watchings and researches since that there was a decent amount of of him kind of making stuff up on the side. Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 42:01

Oh, that's I think that I had read that he was like one of the top uh improvers.

SPEAKER_03 42:05

Yeah, like yeah. He would just try to break people.

Why JD Narration Makes It Work

SPEAKER_02 42:09

Yeah. That's funny. Well, I I think we've kind of uh officially transitioned into our group discussion here. So Ben, you've already asked a couple questions, so I'll I'll jump in with one. So Michelle, does the show work without the voiceover of JD's thoughts?

SPEAKER_01 42:25

I really don't think so. Um I think that the voiceover of his thoughts, and then if you can tag into that the um like the fantasies that he has, his little daydream sequences, I think that that really makes it um for me personally, because I think that's one of the things that sets it apart so much from um from other comedy shows, especially of the similar time. Um it was just such a unique take on it. And I don't know, I guess I assumed I assumed it was under the guise of like he's writing in his diary, but it's his mental diary, whatever, but it's just a neat I don't know, just a neat narration tactic. Yeah, exactly. It was just a neat narration tactic and uh or style, I guess. And I just I think it really for me, like I said, I do think it was one of the things that really sucked me in and kept me there.

SPEAKER_03 43:07

And I love that they they break the fourth wall about it a little bit, like where there's a couple episodes where you see JD's daydreams from another character's perspective. Oh, that's and so he just like stares off into space for a couple seconds and then just says something like there's way too much popcorn or something like completely out of hand that everyone's like, What?

SPEAKER_01 43:25

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_06 43:26

I did those were actually always some fun episodes when they would go and tell his story or her story and it was not about JD. I did like the I think there are good episodes that don't involve the the voiceover as much, but it does come back in. Like it's not like they completely remove it, um, because it usually by the end of the episode they come back to his perspective and he's still the voiceover kind of in the show off.

SPEAKER_01 43:49

Right. Well, and they still would like do a lot of his like internal thoughts. So like I don't know, I liked when he would like say something out loud and then on the inside he'd you know be screaming, or um, I don't know when they would pass. It around to different people and like Ted was kind of standing up for himself to Dr. Kelso and he says, Yeah, that's right, I'll kill you. Or like, I don't know. Just it was interesting to see the things that like that any of them would say, but they wouldn't say it out loud, but they'd sure think it, and then that we'd get to hear what they would think. I just feel like it set it apart.

SPEAKER_06 44:17

Let's see. Whose turn is it? Is it your turn next? That's me. Yeah. Uh I'll ask uh what what episodes are the standouts for you?

SPEAKER_01 44:26

Um So I like I said, I really like the pilot, or at least compared to most pilots. It's uh it's not my favorite episode by any means, but I think that for pilots, um, I think it's a good one. Um there's a an episode earlier in the first season that has um I can't think of what the actress's name is, but she was um on West Wing, Miss Lanningham, if any of you know this. It's like super early on. It's called like my My Old Lady or something like that. That is the first season, isn't it? Yeah, it's like one of the first few episodes, and it's just like a good heart-wrenching one that like I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 44:57

It's about dealing with so JD as a doctor. It's his first loss, his first patient that he lost. Oh wow. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 45:03

So it was her, right?

SPEAKER_06 45:05

Yeah, she dies at the end of the episode.

SPEAKER_02 45:07

And she's like very like I didn't get a chance to do a spoiler. It's it's very early.

SPEAKER_01 45:16

They're already tackling this really big thing that any doctor is gonna have to deal with, and how are they gonna deal with it? How do they cope with it? How do others around them cope with it? How do they help each other cope with it? And um and they do that, I mean, they do a really good job with any of the ones that they do. So any of the ones involving um Ben, Jordan's brother.

SPEAKER_03 45:33

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 45:33

I mean, oh gosh. He's got a real tragic story.

SPEAKER_03 45:37

Um, you guys can go into that if you want to, but well, that was that was gonna be my next question was gonna be who's one of your favorite guest stars? Because Brendan Frazier plays Ben. He's one of my favorite guest stars. Hey, that's cool. He's great. Nice, that's fun.

SPEAKER_01 45:49

Um, I liked the the lady that played um Jill Tracy. So she was um a recurring character just a couple of times, but she was one that came back and had a really big part in like her last episode. Yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_03 46:02

Um what do you call it when someone's hypochondriac? Yeah, yes. She was always in for something that she thought she had, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:11

But and she was the she was like kind of annoying, I mean, not bad, but just you know, she was real chatty and just I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 46:17

She was the one that passed that was the one that drove Dr. Cox over the edge, right? I think so.

SPEAKER_03 46:22

Yeah. Yeah. And she was the actress was on Mad TV, I know. I'm gonna blank on her name.

SPEAKER_01 46:26

Yeah, exactly. And I don't know what her name is, but I recognize her, and so even though she was only on a few times, she stood out to me because she was so I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 46:34

Nick, favorite guest up guest star for you?

SPEAKER_06 46:36

Oh, favorite guest star. Um Yeah, I mean it's got I feel like it's gotta be Brenda Frazier. Um I I don't feel and I mean Jordan's not in the show a ton. I don't know that you can call her a guest star or not, like she's in it enough that she's like not a guest star. Uh but I believe a series regular issue. Yeah, series regular. Um but I the episodes that she is in are just hysterical, you know. Her whole entire um, you know, her her and Dr. Cox's back and forth is is really good and funny. So I definitely appreciate her as like a a more of a minor character.

SPEAKER_01 47:10

Yeah. Yeah, definitely. They're like my preferred, like they're like the key relationship dynamic for me, at least in that show. Um, I forgot about Michael J. Fox. He was one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_02 47:19

I liked him on the other. And then um was her good cup watch.

SPEAKER_01 47:22

I always forget what the guy's name is, but the guy who plays Elliot Stabler on Law and Order SVU, for any of you that none of you are familiar. Oh, that's crazy. I don't know. Okay, well, never mind. But he's like a big bad detective on SVU, and then he's a pediatrician um with big dolls. They're not dolls, they're collectibles.

SPEAKER_02 47:39

Oh, I remember that guy, yeah. That sounds like something any of us at this table would say a hundred percent.

SPEAKER_06 47:44

Was it Dr. No Shot, Dr. Something like that?

SPEAKER_01 47:46

Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it was just for him that was interesting because he's just such a you know, he's like this big bad detective on SVU, and then he's just this, I don't know, kind of overly serious, but kind of goofy uh pediatrician. With a doll thing.

SPEAKER_06 47:59

Yeah, he was kind of like wasn't he similar to Dr. Cox though in some way? Like, wasn't that like the the similarity?

SPEAKER_01 48:04

Yeah, they kind of butt heads because they were so yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:07

Which running gag never got old for you?

SPEAKER_01 48:10

Um, I mean, Eagle was great. Eagle will never be old. Eagle they brought back a lot. Um I liked when they would earlier on when she would do it, I liked when they would make fun of Elliot's voice. Elliot would get um really high pitched, yeah. She'd speak really fast and she'd get really high pitched, and they'd like, you know, either plug their ears because it was so high, or they'd make jokes like it only dogs can hear. And I just, I don't know, it's silly, but they she was really good at pulling it off, and they were good at pretending like it was their least favorite thing ever.

SPEAKER_03 48:39

Yeah. And then, like, wasn't it Kim that could also speak like at that high a pitch and frequency? And so they like watch them two talk, like, what's happening?

SPEAKER_01 48:47

What's happening, right? Um, one of my other small ones, I forget how often this happened, but I did love Johnny the Tackling Alzheimer's patient.

SPEAKER_03 48:53

Oh my gosh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:54

Who every so often you they would say something about Johnny the Tackling Alzheimer's patient, and then somebody would come out, would dive by and tackle someone and say, Who am I? And just so silly, but like such a small little Hooch is crazy.

SPEAKER_03 49:07

Hooch is crazy. Is crazy. That was a good bit. Okay, well, that's another one. Is Hooch his real name? Uh I think it is. It is because they were gonna try to pair him with Dr. Turner. So it's gonna be Turner and Hooch. Do you know that reference? No, no, no.

SPEAKER_06 49:22

Oh, you don't really? No.

SPEAKER_03 49:24

Tom Hanks detective movie where he's a detective turner and he's partnered with a dog named Hooch. Oh, I gotcha. Okay. That's a good movie.

SPEAKER_01 49:31

When I was reading up about this, when I I seen a little thing about Cougartown, it said that in Cougartown there was some allusion made to Gooch Ran Away with Hooch. If you remember Gooch was that girl that um Ted dated. Yep. So Gooch ran away with Hooch. And I don't and they were saying that maybe it was uh a uh a nod to Scrubs so that's funny. Um that little crazy Gooch and Hooch got together.

SPEAKER_06 49:51

I forgot to say what my favorite episode is. I love the the episode where they go and uh the this is towards the very end of the series, but it's uh the the Hawaii episodes love them. I don't remember. No, you don't remember whose wedding was it?

SPEAKER_03 50:06

Ted's Ted's wedding.

SPEAKER_01 50:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 50:07

Yeah, Ted's getting married. No, no, the janitors. The janitors, sorry. Yeah, the janitors getting married to uh Lady.

SPEAKER_03 50:14

Lady, yeah. Ah, yes, Lady.

SPEAKER_05 50:18

It was all a scam attraction.

SPEAKER_03 50:19

That is her name, by the way. Okay. But again, with the janitor, no one can take the janitor seriously. So he's saying, Oh, I'm dating this girl, her name's Lady, and everyone's like, Yeah, okay. Okay, right.

SPEAKER_06 50:30

So here's here's my insider story here. So uh Ben Ben bought me a gong for a wedding presentation.

SPEAKER_03 50:42

The sixth gong.

SPEAKER_05 50:43

It still it still sits up on a shelf. It still sits up there. Tori's like, don't put up that mallet.

SPEAKER_02 50:52

Yeah, Tori's gonna kill you for my body. Oh my god, I forgot about that.

SPEAKER_01 50:56

Tori use that gong at least twice.

SPEAKER_02 51:01

That's good. That was good. That's because he has two kids.

SPEAKER_06 51:06

No, it's uh I don't know. I just it's funny. That's a good one. Yeah, it's a fun there.

SPEAKER_03 51:12

So I was his best man, so it made sense.

SPEAKER_06 51:14

So this next one. And the tiki idols, yeah. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 51:18

I don't know if I have mine still. Um no no no. Michael has no clue what's going on. So, Michael, I will say the sex gong is something that JD and Turk got each other. They're supposed to hit it every time they they got lucky. And so it's funny because they'll just cut to like just like JD miles away from Turk and just you just hear the gong sound, and Turk will go, get it, buddy. Like that's funny.

SPEAKER_06 51:44

Yeah, that was a fun one. Yeah, that's uh but it's still it still sits up there. I still I look up there every once in a while. Remember that man, Ben got me my my gong.

SPEAKER_03 51:56

And you got to bang it. That's right.

SPEAKER_06 51:58

Oh, that's funny. Oh man.

SPEAKER_02 52:01

All right, well, we've got a few minutes left. Nick, why don't you take the last question?

Reboot Reactions And Character Returns

SPEAKER_06 52:04

Oh, last question? Oh man. Um, okay. Uh so we haven't we haven't really talked about the reboot a ton. Okay. Um what's your what's your takes on it so far? We've we're about four episodes in.

SPEAKER_01 52:15

I really like it though so far. I was my expectations were very low. Um so maybe that's part of why I'm enjoying it so much. But it really feels like I think you said upstairs, I feel like it really feels like it's back to normal. It feels like it did before. It's not all exactly the same, but the um I don't know, just like the pacing of it is the same, the um the flow and the format of it is is similar, and they've made adjustments where they need to, I feel like. Um but I don't know. I was really pleasantly surprised and I've really been enjoying it so far. I wish Dr. Cox was on it.

SPEAKER_02 52:51

Is it the same uh showrunner as the original? Okay, we'll see. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 52:56

Well, Bill Lawrence has made some money now, so he can come back and kind of do whatever he wants.

SPEAKER_01 53:00

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, a little pleasure project, even if it's not yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:04

We brought him up. So Bill Lawrence, uh so his shows include so before Scrubs was Spin City, which Michael J. Fox was on. I love Spin City. So yeah, that's and that's why he came back for Scrubs. Okay. Yeah. Uh so Spin City and then Cougar Town, we mentioned. And now his biggest one is Ted Lasso, which we brought up, and then uh so he's had a good, yeah, great repertoire.

SPEAKER_06 53:27

Yeah, and Zach Braff has directed, I think well, he started directing in Scrubs, and he has also directed, I believe, on Shrinking and on Ted Lasso, if I'm not mistaken.

SPEAKER_03 53:36

Oh he's been yeah, and uh Michael, you know Garden State, the movie? I don't think so. Okay, wow. Really? No.

SPEAKER_01 53:45

Oh, I thought okay.

SPEAKER_02 53:46

No, no, no, I don't know. That's so good.

SPEAKER_01 53:48

I've actually never watched it either.

SPEAKER_02 53:49

I need to. So that's where I Well Nick, why don't you and I watch it together? You should watch it.

SPEAKER_01 53:53

Because that's like, I don't know. I've heard that Jordan has contributed a lot to the soundtrack stuff, but I'd heard that Zach Braff also has contributed a lot to the soundtrack, and like and he was big in the soundtrack for Garden State, which is so yeah, Garden State's a uh movie that Zach Braff wrote, directed, starred in alongside Natalie Portman.

SPEAKER_02 54:10

Yeah, I definitely know like I've heard of the movie. This was like this is like mid or like early 2010s.

SPEAKER_06 54:16

Yeah, and it was pretty indie. It got big, like it was a an indie project that went pretty, pretty huge from pre-pocket.

SPEAKER_02 54:22

Yeah, I just never watched it. All right, Nick, you and I, we're gonna watch it.

SPEAKER_06 54:26

What's what about you, Ben? What's your what's your take? I know we've talked about it a little bit on the reboot.

SPEAKER_03 54:30

No, uh, much like Michelle said, um, I think it's it feels very much the same. There's some characters that I like of the new ones, some that I'm like, I need to see more from before I make any verdict. But uh the biggest thing that we've kind of mentioned is the fact that they broke JD and Elliot up again. I'm just kind of like, okay, that felt unnecessary. I get it. And the one thing I will say is I do agree that a huge driving part of the original series was JD's romantic life, you know, just especially because it's uh his narration and everything about like talking about girls and his relationships and stuff like that. So like I I I get it, and we'll see what they do with it. And just at the same time, like they did it, they like brought them together at the very end of the show just to tear them apart and just like lie.

SPEAKER_06 55:15

Yeah. No, I hear you there. I think um, I don't know. I so my biggest gripe with it so far, and this was only in the first episode, and it's most I mean, like, it's the absence of Dr. Cox. I thought he was gonna be more directly involved, and I I would have been like okay with the way that they chose to take him out of the show, but I wish it would have been a little bit more gradual. Yeah, that he stuck around for several episodes or you know, whatever, to the end of the season, and then they're like, Okay, hey, we're gonna pass the torch and then kind of have this opportunity to uh have JD, you know, be the chief of medicine and all that stuff and kind of see what what shifts after that. It was it felt very abrupt to me. And I do hope that that's not the only I'm sure it's not, but I hope it's not the only thing that we see of of Dr. Cox. And there's just some other stuff, like I mean, just little weird things. And I think it's I I I said to Ben, I think that I don't know how well the show works with just JD and Turk. Um I think that such a large portion of the show were the side characters. Um you know, just the other people that were there that you loved them just as much, if not more, than the main ones that were in the show. You know, JD, Turk, and Elliot, they were the main ones, but I mean, we've mentioned so many characters that were just running bits and stuff like that that also contributed a lot of a lot to the comedy, uh, some of them to the to the humor, I'm sorry, to the uh just the feel-good nature of the show too, and uh the emotional aspect of it too. So I don't know. I'm I'm intrigued, of course. Like I same way that I am with any new product or something that I love, like I'm gonna keep on watching it. I'm not gonna hate on it, but yeah, that's what I like about you, Nick. Except for that I don't, you know, except for my opinions on episode nine. That's we'll get there.

SPEAKER_03 57:03

Our next Star Wars one's gonna be about the trilogy. Um so I know we've seen we've seen Hooch, we've seen the Todd. Who else have we seen so far?

unknown 57:13

Dr.

SPEAKER_03 57:14

Cox Barley.

SPEAKER_01 57:15

Dr. Cox Barely. I know.

SPEAKER_03 57:16

I know we're hoping the janitor makes an appearance. Who else do you guys feel like you'd like to see make an appearance?

SPEAKER_01 57:21

Um, I'd like Jordan to come in.

SPEAKER_03 57:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 57:23

Right? But I mean, I guess it makes sense that she's probably not gonna show up without Dr. Cox.

SPEAKER_06 57:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:27

Um are we gonna see Dr. Kelso? Is he dead?

SPEAKER_06 57:30

He's alive. Okay. Is he? Okay, he's alive.

SPEAKER_01 57:33

Um, I'd like to see him.

SPEAKER_06 57:34

It'd be nice. I I would love to see him make an appearance. I don't know how well, like what his health is like, but yeah, I would I would definitely love to see a Dr. Kelso and just kind of have him be a guest star for an episode.

SPEAKER_03 57:45

Can I make a prediction? What do you think? I think Dr. Cox comes back as a patient. As a patient? Uh-oh. And I think they kill him off.

SPEAKER_06 57:54

What?

SPEAKER_03 57:55

Do you think so? I think that's gonna be an end of season one reboot. That's that's my prediction here now.

SPEAKER_01 58:00

That's bold, but that's not out of the ballpark, though.

SPEAKER_03 58:03

I mean, that's that's something that they would do. Yeah, yeah. And then JD has to deal with you know losing his mentor, right?

SPEAKER_06 58:09

Yeah, that could be. That could be. There'd definitely be an emotional like thing that gets you kind of involved with it a little bit. Then they could bring him back like uh like Laverne. Oh, bless Laverne. Lavernigan. Lavernigan.

SPEAKER_03 58:23

So, Michael, there was a character, a nurse named Laverne, but she they had a big story arc where she died, but they just like the character so much that they brought her back. Is that the reason that they brought her back? I think so.

SPEAKER_02 58:33

So every like Disney property ever created.

SPEAKER_03 58:37

It was just they yeah, kind of they just like they brought the same actress back and she just played another nurse and they just called her Laverne again. Like, well, that's what that's what JD called her. But again, yeah, we don't know her real name.

SPEAKER_02 58:48

I thought you were gonna say they said somehow Laverne returned. Somehow pretty good. Like Coppetine, yes.

Next Week Christopher Nolan

SPEAKER_06 58:58

Oh gosh. Well, um well, that's the next big thing as we yeah, yeah, because we're already, I mean, I don't know if there's much else to talk about in in the way of the next big thing for the fandom because it's already going on right now, right? Um, but what's the next best or the next big thing for fandom of fandoms? That's the question.

SPEAKER_02 59:14

Yeah, so I think we've officially decided we're gonna do a Christopher Nolan episode. Um, so my uh good buddy from church, Mark Barry, and I call him Bark Mary.

SPEAKER_01 59:26

He should.

SPEAKER_02 59:27

And uh he's gonna come on and talk Christopher Nolan. We'll get into maybe the the Dark Knight trilogy. We might focus on that a little bit more. Um and uh yeah, so we're looking forward to that. Yeah, it's fun.

SPEAKER_06 59:37

Yeah, well, we definitely want to say a big thank you to Michelle first. Thank you. Thank you so much. Um taking time out of your out of your night to come here. I know we're past bedtime, so she parties hard. Yeah, drinking ginger ale in a basement. No, but really we we are so appreciative that you came on and it was so much fun. I know I I liked it a lot, and Ben It's just a show that we both love so much, and we were excited to be able to talk about it with somebody else. So um glad to be on.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:07

Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:08

Yeah. Well, I think that that about brings us to a close, and uh, we'll see you guys next time for Christopher Nolan.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:16

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